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Originally Posted by Cheese
well now Shantzy...dont you sound all goody goody attacking me again....
Once again...read what I copied....I mean read it ...if thats possible.
Here so you dont have to scroll back and hurt your little finger.....
What is the message of the Christian Zionist? Simply stated it is this: Every act taken by Israel is orchestrated by God, and should be condoned, supported, and even praised by the rest of us.
"Never mind what Israel does," say the Christian Zionists. "God wants this to happen." This includes the invasion of Lebanon, which killed or injured an estimated 100,000 Lebanese and Palestinians, most of them civilians; the bombing of sovereign nations such as Iraq; the deliberate, methodical brutalizing of the Palestinians—breaking bones, shooting children, and demolishing homes; and the expulsion of Palestinian Christians and Muslims from a land they have occupied for over 2,000 years.
Christ cannot return to earth until certain events occur: The Jews must return to Palestine, gain control of Jerusalem and rebuild a temple, and then we all must engage in the final, great battle called Armageddon. Estimates vary, but most students of Armageddon theology agree that as a result of these relatively recent interpretations of Biblical scripture, 10 to 40 million Americans believe Palestine is God's chosen land for the Jews.
Now here is something else for you to read....
Christian Zionism is the belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy, and is a necessary precondition for the return of Jesus to reign on Earth. This belief is commonly though not exclusively associated with evangelical Protestants in the United States.
So lets see...in my LAST post I had this...
Hezbollah = Militant Islamic resistance movement; it does not recognize Israel's right to exist.
"Party of God" - Pro-Iranian Shi'ite party that is strong in Lebanon and has fought the Israeli army in Lebanon for many years.
Jewish state of Israel is the only state named after a religion.
and finally once again...
Christian Zionist? Simply stated it is this: Every act taken by Israel is orchestrated by God.
Figure it out yet...cuz if not I dont think I have a hammer big enough to get it through to you.
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Wow, care to tell me what a Christian doctorine has to do with Israels motives in this conflict?
Yes CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS beleive that everything Israle does is orchestrated by God, they also believe that when Jesus comes back (something that I doubt many Jews think will happen), that most jews will convert and pracitce their own form of pseudo-jewish chrisianity (something that I also doubt that many jews believe). So why is that relevant?
Hey, did you know that there are groups in Iran that think that Israel has no right to exist? They're not Jewish either, so by your logic, I guess that means that all the Jews in the Israeli government, and army must share that belief eh? What some christian sect beleives has ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVANCE in a Jewish nation's agenda. But good try.
As to defining Hezbollah and the Party of God, that's great, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that there is more than one Islamic front that doesn't exactly like the idea of a Jewish state, and that's the problem, I've never said it wasn't.
As for Israel being the only state being named after a religion, that's super.
Did you know I'm the only person on CP with a reference to Jeff Shantz in my handle?