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If you have seen Fahrenheit 9/11, I would suggest seeing Fahrenhype 9/11 as well. It does a very good job at challenging what Moore states in his movie. Not everything, but the majority of items are challenged.
They talk to the people that Moore got footage of. The Oregon State trooper, and the soilder in the hospital that had lost his arms.
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Yeah, and I destroyed Farenhype 9/11's contentions in less than half an hour. Dave Kopel and his group of liers (come on, Ann Coulter is a source) are so transparent it isn't even funny. There is nothing in their movie but an attempt to discredit Moore and the Democrats, not the information contained within 911. If there was anything that they could have said in regards to the illegitimacy of the content, Bush would have hit Moore with a libel suit just like Kerry did with the slanderous scumbags behind Sinclair's little documentary. [/b][/quote]
What are Moore's sources for his movie? People he decieved into filming (Oregon State Trooper)? Moore states in his moving to a CIA agent outside the Saudi Arabian Embassy: "I am filming a documentary". He didn't film a documentary. It is loosey based on facts, that he has twisted around.
One of the main arguments Moore makes in his movie for the conspiricy theory is the Bush's involvement with the Carlyle group. Well, your buddy Soros is also linked to the Carlyle group. I guess Moore forgot to mention that. Oh wait.. he didn't, becuase while he is trying to make Bush like nothing more than war mongering, money hungry fool, one of Bush's biggest independant opponets, Soros, is linked to the same group. That doesn't look to good now does it.
Also, Moore seems to think that the Bush's are the only Presidents that have been friendly with Saudi Arabia. WTF?? The US and Saudi Arabia have been friends for a very long time.
Taliban Visit to Texas 1998, while GW Bush is Govenor (sp). Well, yah, a rep from the Taliban did visit Texas. Who was President at the time? Clinton. Who could said "I don't want you to come to my country?" Clinton. Did GWBush know about the visit? Probably not, since the acting President doesn't have to mention to anyone who is comming to visit.
Now, if Bush was buddy buddy with the Taliban... for reasons of oil, as Moore claims, he couldn't find one video clip or transcript of Bush meeting the Taliban Delegate?
As far as discounting Moore or the claims he makes in his movie. Who do you think is going to discount it? The Democrats? Why? Why would they do that? You think they actually would hold each other accountable for missinformation getting out to the public? In an election year? I attribute Moores film for the race being as close at it is.
No party polices themselves. The only people that are going to discount what Moore says are the Republicans. If you think otherwise, you are living in a dream world.
As far as libel suits:
CAN LIBEL SUITS BE BROUGHT BY A PUBLIC FIGURE?
These suits are a bit dicer for the public figure.
A public figure may be an elected or appointed (a politician) or someone who has stepped into a public controversy (e.g., movie stars and TV stars, star athletes). Public figures have a "harder road to toll" than the average person since they must prove that the party defaming them knew the statements were false, made them with actual malice, or was negligent in saying or writing them. Proving these elements makes the chance of a successful lawsuit slim.
From this website:
Libel Suits
Moore isn't dumb. He keeps his remarks rague, usually. There are the odd time he does go off the handle. But Bush has more important things to do, like run the country, than to fight Moore in a courtroom.