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Originally Posted by driveway
Jesus tap-dancing Christ ... are people seriously arguing for a system of 'tiered' Citizenship in Canada? Do you not see how unimaginably bad an idea that is? I think it might be the worst idea I've ever heard and I once heard someone describe a restaurant idea where the customers would bring their own plates from home.
The incredibly obvious problems with this insanely stupid idea:
1. It violates section 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in such a profound way that we might as well throw out the whole document.
2. The staggering racism that would be involved in its application. "Oh, you're from a Commonwealth country, or a NAFTA nation? Well, you get right in, you have a 'Reasonable Nation-of-Origin Exception' wait... it's not Mexico or Swaziland is it? ...oh, okay, you're good."
3.The monstrous cost of the appeals process that would result if someone were identified for forfeiture of Citizenship.
4. The potential for this to result in forfeiture of Citizenship for dual-citizens. "Oh, you went and fought against the Asad regime in Syria ... yeah... they're kinda on our side now against ISIS.. so... yeah... if you could just stay there that would be great."
5. The massive disincentive this would cause for desirable immigration into Canada. "Oh, I would come to Canada with my two PhD's and my husband who has a Masters in Engineering, but our teenage son is 17 and kind of a moron, we're worried about him doing something stupid and losing Citizenship; New Zealand it is!"
And finally, to reiterate my first point, IT VIOLATES THE CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS.
This idea is worse than Edmonton.
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I just want to say that I am not really arguing for it, but just putting the idea out there as an inexperienced bystander. I'll note that you're against it though! I have no idea, so could you explain how this violates the charter? Frankly, saying we will take you as a citizen except if your killing other people, running drugs or other violent acts doesn't seem like a very high bar for would be immigrants. As far as a disincentive though, this applies to those exact people we don't need here. How many incredibly intelligent, brilliant people are going to reconsider coming here because they can't murder and rape people without losing their newly acquired citizenship?