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Putting together what I know on the topic of torture, I would easily bet my life that the Canadian military tortures people too. (Or at the very least they hire private contractors to do the dirty work, or have some other intelligence operation do it for them).

And yeah, probably pretty much every western military does it, at least the ones that take part in operations abroad. I actually pretty recently heard from a relatively good source that even the Finns do it, even though most Finns would be shocked by this. (Although please don't quote me on that, it's hardly guaranteed info.)

It's sad, stupid and quite unnecessary, but "everybody" does it anyway.

But I think only good things can come out of this discussion I think. The dark side of intelligence communities is not talked about enough, but there's good reasons to believe the practice of torture is mostly just a stupid waste of lives and money.