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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
If nothing else, Beatle17, I am impressed at how quickly you nailed yourself to a cross there. You make one post demonstrating that, yes, you do not understand statistics at all, then rush right into the obviously pre-planned whine against advanced stats. I am honestly impressed.
Also, bonus points for commenting on the value of using stats in context, then turning around and using a stat out of context to try and claim the group you dislike is arguing the Oilers are better than "10-12 other teams".
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Ok, you want to attack a person again because they question you so I will ask you a few simple question that you should be able to answer.
Which NHL teams have the best Corsi/Fenwick/PDO numbers? Are they the best teams because of these stats, or are the stats in these categories better because of the players/coaching/philosophy of the teams style of play? Did these stats assist the teams to acquire the players (Pouliot on the Oilers) or did the teams acquire the players because they fit the system they want to play? Do all the players on the team, regardless of roles on the team, have the same ratings, and if they don't why not? Can having a better 4th line (Bruins v Oilers as example) change the overall team performance in the stats?
If the stats you want to use are so great they should answer every one of these questions for every player on each team. If they can't then they are a tool to use IN CONTEXT with the other tools I mentioned earlier.