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sureLoss · 12-06-2014, 08:28 AM

Corey Pronman
December 5th - TSN1260

https://soundcloud.com/lowdownwithlowetide/lthour2-5

McDavid

is around the range of generational prospects we have seen in the past few drafts
would lean to no as to whether McDavid is at the same level Crosby was at that age. not quite there
most certainly above your average 1st overall prospect
he is above Tavares as a 17 year old

Eichel

didn't think he was special at the start of the year. thought he was about the same as the average 1st overall prospect you would see in most years
doesn't think he is at McDavid's level yet but has had such an impressive start in college it is starting to elevate Pronman's opinion of him
hasn't seen a freshman dominate college hockey like Eichel since Parise or Toews
considers him a standard to very elite prospect compared to other recent 1st overalls
nothing but impressive since the start of the season

host asks if McDavid and Eichel are the clearly better than the rest of the group

yes - for now
sees a lot of good things when looking at Hanifin, Kylington, and Strome but there are question marks on those 3 guys (nothing huge just some concerns that would put them behind Eichel at this moment)

Strome

host asks if Strome is like Sam Gagner being boosted by Patrick Kane
gets the concerns that Strome is playing with Connor. we have seen special prospects make nobodies into "special players" before.
definitely an elite prospect. former 2nd overall in OHL draft
his 16 year old stats didn't reflect his true talent
he is big body center with a high end skill set. not going to find a lot of players like him in the draft and there will be high demand for him
he is producing very well even without McDavid, so doesn't think it is a teammate effect

other prospects that may go in the top 10 or top 8

Konecny was there at the start of the year. now considers him a mid first round pick. needs to see more production out of him before he considers him a top 10 pick.
really likes Marner, Zach Werenski, Jeremy Roy

comparison to the 2003 draft

2015 top end is very good. lots of talent for the 1st round
2003 was an outlier. don't think it is realistic to bank on this draft class as being as good as 2003
2003 saw MA Fleury go 1st overall. They didn't have the elite prospect like McDavid
we might see a better top than 2003, but projecting the total depth as being better is unrealistic

on tanking

no real point in tanking unless you tank for 30th.
30th gives a 20% chance at McDavid but 100% chance at McDavid or Eichel
if 30th hasn't been locked up by January you could see some real interesting callups as the bottom feeders might go for it

on the most complete defenceman in this draft

the top 4 defenceman in the draft are Hanifin, Kylington, Werenski and Roy
Werenski is arguably the most complete defenceman
as a 17 year old already Michigan's best defenceman
plays all situations PK and PP and against opponents best player
more of an offensively tilted game.
Werenski isn't as dynamic as Hanifin, Kylington or Roy
projects as a dynamic two guy in the NHL

12-06-2014, 08:28 AM	#744
sureLoss Some kinda newsbreaker! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style Exp:	Corey Pronman December 5th - TSN1260 https://soundcloud.com/lowdownwithlowetide/lthour2-5 McDavid is around the range of generational prospects we have seen in the past few drafts would lean to no as to whether McDavid is at the same level Crosby was at that age. not quite there most certainly above your average 1st overall prospect he is above Tavares as a 17 year old Eichel didn't think he was special at the start of the year. thought he was about the same as the average 1st overall prospect you would see in most years doesn't think he is at McDavid's level yet but has had such an impressive start in college it is starting to elevate Pronman's opinion of him hasn't seen a freshman dominate college hockey like Eichel since Parise or Toews considers him a standard to very elite prospect compared to other recent 1st overalls nothing but impressive since the start of the season host asks if McDavid and Eichel are the clearly better than the rest of the group yes - for now sees a lot of good things when looking at Hanifin, Kylington, and Strome but there are question marks on those 3 guys (nothing huge just some concerns that would put them behind Eichel at this moment) Strome host asks if Strome is like Sam Gagner being boosted by Patrick Kane gets the concerns that Strome is playing with Connor. we have seen special prospects make nobodies into "special players" before. definitely an elite prospect. former 2nd overall in OHL draft his 16 year old stats didn't reflect his true talent he is big body center with a high end skill set. not going to find a lot of players like him in the draft and there will be high demand for him he is producing very well even without McDavid, so doesn't think it is a teammate effect other prospects that may go in the top 10 or top 8 Konecny was there at the start of the year. now considers him a mid first round pick. needs to see more production out of him before he considers him a top 10 pick. really likes Marner, Zach Werenski, Jeremy Roy comparison to the 2003 draft 2015 top end is very good. lots of talent for the 1st round 2003 was an outlier. don't think it is realistic to bank on this draft class as being as good as 2003 2003 saw MA Fleury go 1st overall. They didn't have the elite prospect like McDavid we might see a better top than 2003, but projecting the total depth as being better is unrealistic on tanking no real point in tanking unless you tank for 30th. 30th gives a 20% chance at McDavid but 100% chance at McDavid or Eichel if 30th hasn't been locked up by January you could see some real interesting callups as the bottom feeders might go for it on the most complete defenceman in this draft the top 4 defenceman in the draft are Hanifin, Kylington, Werenski and Roy Werenski is arguably the most complete defenceman as a 17 year old already Michigan's best defenceman plays all situations PK and PP and against opponents best player more of an offensively tilted game. Werenski isn't as dynamic as Hanifin, Kylington or Roy projects as a dynamic two guy in the NHL Last edited by sureLoss; 12-06-2014 at 08:33 AM.