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Originally Posted by #-3
Its interesting to me that people always say this about Calgary Transit.
I personally feel that transit needs to continue to grow, be made easier to use, more direct, and has to become an early priority in new communities rather than an after thought much like roads are now.
But all of that being said I have often heard that Calgary has a vary high per capita transit use for North American, and is one of the fastest growing next works (which is probably more about keeping up with population growth, than improving the system on an individual basis).
Have you extensively used transit in these other places?
I have only used transit in Osaka & Las Vegas, and only a couple of times each.
Osaka was in a whole different league when you look a frequincy, distribution, and accessibility, but the experience wasn't all that different, waiting for buses outside of subway stations, having to transfer a couple of times to get where you want to go. And over crowded at peak times.
Las Vegas, I think pales con comparison to Calgary. And in terms of size/geography the cities are pretty close, But vary vary different demographically. Much smaller train next work, and it seems like less frequinecy in bus's but that's a really hard thing to gauge if you are not using it day-in day-out. The do have 2 privately owned trams that don't connect to the public infrastructure, but thats a special situation that only works in Las Vegas, and Disney World
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I was raised in Montreal and spent a lot of time in Vancouver when I was living in Victoria. They just have better service, more service (i.e, they serve a greater area) and less issues. The CTrain's problem is it isn't a fully segregated system, so when you have many areas where trains and pedestrians/vehicles can get involved, it's going to effect the service. Also used transit in Seattle, San Francisco, Toronto and Amsterdam and they all have a much smoother transit experience than Calgary does. Outside Montreal and Toronto they all have direct commuter access to the airport via train, a major plus. Part of it is they all invested a lot in transit early on, whereas Calgary is doing heavy investing now when the network is more difficult to integrate with the city.
That's why things like the North-Central/SE line has to be built ASAP or it'll be more difficult and costly as the areas where the line could be built become more populated and built in. People talk about an arena and how it relates to a "world class city", but all the cities I listed for great transit are considered or close to being considered world class cities and they all have excellent transit. I think excellent transit is a much better indicator of a world class city than an arena, otherwise Edmonton will be considered more world class in a few years just by erecting a building, which is preposterous.
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
It's not just a Flames fan issue it is a Calgary issue. Nenshi will not support city funding for pro sport facility's even though they are staples in the community of Calgary.
He will ensure that no amount of public funding is directed to the Flames or Stampeders for new buildings.
When the time comes to an actual vote to provide funding for a new arena Nenshi will not vote in favor. And that time will come, so I say he will vote against it time will tell if I am right.
To answer your question. Yes he should remove the jersey if he is not going to vote in favor of the Flames. It is absolutely hypocritical, you can't see that.
Nenshi has already said in the past he is not in favor of providing funding to any privately owned professional sports franchise.
He has also said in the past that not 1 concert has bypassed Calgary due to the Saddle Dome.
Fwy don't bother asking for proof of a quote you know he has said this and not just once.
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Staples of the community? You know who is a bigger staple? Husky...or Cenevous..or any company that employs thousands of people because without employment no one is living here. Should we subsidize all the new buildings they'd want? Or course not, you'd think it's absurd to do that. Yet for a pro sports team it's completely acceptable. It's strange how that's all it takes to change some peoples opinions.
Nenshi can love the Flames and not want to give them a handout. A lot of fans of the team fell the exact same way. It's not anti-Flames to not want to pay for a new arena, it's understanding that the arguments for any public funding have mostly been debunked, and the city having much more pressing issues. Unless you're advocating for your taxes to go up to pay for the arena?