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Sure. And my point is they didn't have to attack Japan (time was certainly on the Allies side at this point). They could have (and were) burned the entire island with another month of bombing.

Micheal Savage(I know you don't like him, as most people here won't) was talking about this the other night. I usually don't listen to him, but he had a very good point. The US has on one carrier ship more military strength and power through the Air Force then any other Air Force in the world.

Yet they still send their "boys" to run into building, into an inevitable suicide situation, instead of making use of that military might.

You make a very good point.

Japan did not develop its political/economic institutions intially. The US did not 'help', they 'forced' these institutions in Japan. They also pardoned thousands and thousands of Japanese war criminals so that they could re-enter Japanese industry and get things going there again. MacArthur ruled that place like a God. He wasn't there 'helping out and tidying up'. He was re-making the nation, western-style.

So whats the problem in Iraq? History teaches us a lot of things, so to look at history, it is sucessful to force democracy on such people, as 60 years down the road they're loving every minute of it.

No, I don't mind, except that you were in agreement with me about why the US comes up in conversation (apparently), so I wasn't sure what we were talking about here.

Ah heck, neither do I.

And like I said earlier, while hindsight may prove that the allies were probably going to win, at the time it was a total toss-up, up to and even after D-Day, from the point of view at the time. The allies did not 'know' that Hitler's defeat was inevitable when the US entered the war. Not even close.

Fair enough.

I heard they were training very young boys and women to fight at that point. Sounds like they were running short of people trained to die, if not willing. I'm sure the US Marine Corps. would have made short work of armed Japanese civilians, despite their willingness to die for their cause... especially with a path of fire leading the way.

I have no doubt that Japan was falling apart, but I do not know how far their citizens would have gone to protect their homeland. How far would you go to protect our great country?