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Old 07-07-2006, 08:51 AM   #49
Bleeding Red
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Originally Posted by Agamemnon
Believing that the state of Israel is 'technically illegitimate' does not = being a Mujahadeen. To paint anyone who disagrees with the Israeli occupation of Palestine (if you believe the Palestinians) as a racist is flat out wrong.
That all depends on how you define a few of the points in your post. What do you mean by "technically illegitimate"?

Do you mean that the State of Israel was created on the map illegally (a political view)? If so, then the facts don't bear you out - Israel (pre-1967 boarders) was created by the people living there on land purchased in the early part of the 1900's and land given to them through the Balfour Declaration, and recognized by the UN in 1948. All quite legal.

Do you mean that the Jews do not have a right to a homeland either in that part of the world or at all? This can be construed as an anti-semetic position.

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the Israeli occupation of Palestine
Are you refering to the occupation of what is commonly known as the west bank & gaza? Or the so called (by Hamas & other terrorist groups) occupation of historic Palestine?

Ending the first is a political issue, Ending the second is terrorist PR and slang for the destruction of Israel - an anti-semetic issue.

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I think its innappropriate when looking at the original post in question (not a hint of racism to it).
I agree. I did not feel that the original post was anti-semetic - The poster took a position (that Israel is to blame) and pointed out that Israel should exist within the pre-1967 borders, a political stance.

One could argue that the State of Israel has no right to exist just as I could argue that tthe State of Israel has every right to exist. One could argue that the State of Israel should not be a Jewish State, just as I could argue the oposite. To call the arguments (or debators) anti-semitic or racist often lies in the motive - is there a malicious intent. I don't see any here.

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