07-06-2006, 11:18 AM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Red Mile Style
So you're blaming the Israeli/Arab conflict on Hamas?!?!?!? That's a little ignorant, don't you think? This conflict runs much deeper than a democratically elected Palestinian government.
The reality behind Gaza is that it belongs to the Palestinians anyway. Israel illegally took that land away in a illegitimate war. Israel, if it bothered to follow international law, should consist of pre 1967 borders. Of corse Israel isn't going to do this, instead they are going to erect an illegal wall, claiming land that is not theirs, but hey, they gave up Gaza. They were supposed to give up Gaza a long time ago, but now they martyr it, and package it to make it look like the Palestinians are not negotiating or compromising anything in return.
Why does anybody do anything that is radical, such as that of kidnapping a political figure? It is clear that a group is being repressed, and feeling like nobody is listening to them, so they resort to whatever can get their message across. The democratically elected Hamas government is not being recognized, and therefor they have to do whatever is in their power to try and get their message relayed. The FLQ did it in Quebec, and I believe that if Israel and other states around the world took Hamas seriously, this wouldn't have happened.
I am not supporting the kidnapping, but obviously when groups have to resort to such an act, there has to be more to the story.
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The Anti-Semetism runs deep in your blood, doesn't it?
Maybe you should look up your BS before you post it.
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In 1947, following increasing levels of violence together with unsuccessful efforts to reconcile the Jewish and Arab populations, the British government decided to withdraw from the Palestine Mandate. The UN General Assembly approved the 1947 UN Partition Plan dividing the territory into two states, with the Jewish area consisting of roughly 55% of the land, and the Arab area roughly 45%. Jerusalem was planned to be an international region administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.
Immediately following the adoption of the Partition Plan by the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947, David Ben-Gurion tentatively accepted the partition, while the Arab League rejected it. Several Arab attacks on Jewish civilians soon turned into widespread fighting between Arabs and Jews, this civil war being the first "phase" of the 1948 War of Independence.
On May 14, 1948, before the expiry of the British Mandate of Palestine at midnight on May 15, 1948, the State of Israel was proclaimed.
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The British were unable to come up with a solution that would satisfy either Arabs or Jews, so in 1947, they handed the problem to the newly-founded United Nations, which developed a partition plan dividing Palestine into Jewish and Arab portions. The plan was ratified in November 1947. The mandate expired on May 14, 1948 and British troops pulled out of Palestine. The Jews of Palestine promptly declared the creation of the State of Israel, which was recognized by several Western countries immediately.
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I would say if the UN gave Israel their part of the land, they rightfully deserve it. Also, dating back to ancient Bible times, who's land was it?
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In the late 1800s, Theodor Herzl and Chaim Weizmann founded Zionism, a political movement dedicated to the creation of a Jewish state. They saw a state of Israel as a necessary refuge for Jewish victims of oppression, especially in Russia, where pogroms were decimating the Jewish population.
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