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Old 11-09-2014, 08:00 AM   #5032
Oling_Roachinen
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Drury18, here's the post I want you to give me a chance on that you didn't give GGG please


Why my tracking doesn't quite make sense if I was mafia:

Night 1 - Formulate, sure that could be town or mafia action.
Night 2 - Drury18, again town or mafia.
Night 3 - Formulate, going back and wasting another tracking on someone who my power didn't work on, I'm not quite sure how that makes sense if I was mafia. It makes sense as town as I wanted to double check before I revealed and had him killed.
Night 4 - Rathji, could be either. But when I revealed that I had no reason to believe he was mafia I would have took away a suspect from the narrowing list of unrevealed mafia suspects that included Aeneas and Girlysports at the time.
Night 6 - Squiggs96, I would have known he was being truthful about his power. Diss was an unknown. Why would I waste my power on checking to see what the empowerer was up to when Diss could be anything?
Night 7 - Starseed, again if I was mafia that was a waste of my tracking ability and now that Diss had revealed his power I would have wanted to be checking to see what he did.
Night 8 - Starseed, same as above.
Night 9 - Dissentowner, down to 2 people really, I knew Puxlut was town, I trusted Drury18 and Timbo, hockeyguy15 had at least used his power. Diss had not been confirmed and was already top of my mafia suspects simply because of cancelling others out.

And then that would mean that the watcher, cop and tracker were all against the town. A lot of people said I was mafia because the town couldn't have both the watcher and investigator and that Aeneas was the likely townie. But he ended up mafia.


Why some of the mafia actions don't quite make sense if Diss was town:

On Night 6 they kill Wood who had told Puxlut to kill Aeneas, Girlysports or Dissentowner. He had no power, Dissentowner was still unconfirmed. He could have been the cop yet somehow they knew he wasn't. Yet they killed Wood putting a massive target on their backs considering who he had just named. Why not kill Diss, let him reveal to be town making Wood second guess his list? Then they could still do their own reveal about being princess and watcher or even maybe say cop if they weren't afraid that Timbo would call them out.

And after that why did the mafia not kill him earlier when he was "confirmed" townie by many? GGG and Rathji were "confirmed" townies who they went after, but Dissentowner was the only one with a power, well two powers, that would be incredibly damaging to the mafia if he was town. So why has he lasted so long?


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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Diss gained town cred by Aeneas and GS trying to manipulate a lynch.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Diss gained town cred not by something he did, but the blatantly obvious move by two scum. After being so careful that not a single one had been lynched on Day 7 they do something so obvious?

The vote was 6 for him, the next highest had 2. There were multiple people okay with the hammer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim View Post
Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 4 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (2): Drury18, Aeneas

Voted:
dissentowner (6): GirlySports, GGG, starseed, Timbo, Hockeyguy15
squiggs96 (2): Oling_Roachinen, Rathji
Puxlut (1):
Aeneas (1): Puxlut
Oling_Roachinen (1): squiggs96
starseed (1): dissentowner

The deadline is Tuesday, October 28th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.
Those were the votes at the time.
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Originally Posted by Rathji View Post
Diss - Top of my list I think, after my realization of the frame job in my previous post. If it wasnt the hammer I would cast that vote now in a heartbeat. As it stands, any late voting (even the hammer) should be considered suspicious, as I think he is the forgone conclusion for today's lynch.
Rathji was posting stuff like this.
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Originally Posted by Puxlut View Post
I can be hammer if you guys want, but I'm only half feeling it right now.
There's something niggling at the back of my head about a couple of other players and I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Why did you put the extra votes on him then?

And then they come out so blatantly against him that make everyone question? Why did they feel the need to pressure this vote? Why not just wait it out? If the argument is going to be me, Aeneas, Girlysports and Hockeyguy15 are the mafia, take a look at that vote count and see that not a single one of us had more than 1 vote.

It was perfect really, they make it seem like they want Diss dead. If Diss dies, like it looked like would happen, it separates them from him. If Diss lives, he has the perfect excuse to be "confirmed" townie now that 2 mafia members tried to get him out. But the funny thing is, Aeneas could have just hammered him if he was going to be so blatant about it. Wood called them out, they had to separate themselves after being so careful not to get lynched the pressure was on and the did an amazing job.

They also came up with powers that made us not want to lynch Girly, which was a lie, and a Diss now had excuse to be caught visiting townies, which has not been confirmed, so he wasn't even afraid of my investigator abilities. "I was giving doctor to GGG, votes to Puxlut." Etc.
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