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Old 11-07-2014, 01:43 PM   #173
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe View Post
This is a funny post

Lame? Calling me out? Passive-Aggressive? Begrudgingly giving him credit? When you post aggressively like this, you don't generally get a discussion, you get an argument. Let's try and have a discussion anyways.

First off, did you listen to Sven get criticized for that icing? Not sure what you are seeing, but he had other options than icing it. It was a lazy play. It happens, but he had more time, or could have chipped it out, or skated it out a bit more. You don't ice it from that spot. You disagree, that's fine. He got criticized for it on-air, and I think that rightfully so.

His TOI in the first period - maybe I was wrong about that, but when I looked to see how much time he was getting near the end of the 1st period, I could have sworn he was ~7 minutes. Maybe I didn't match it up properly? Point taken, and I won't make such an assertion in the future without being completely sure. However, if he got 5 minutes in the first, he still got his ice-time reduced as the game progressed (ending at 11:02 TOI). However, I can accept that he got his time shortened as a product of Hartley shortening his bench in an effort to play catch-up. Implying that I was merely trying to write some sort of narrative to for my 'obsession with knocking him down' is simply a fallacy.

Regardless, I thought he came out with more jump, much more effort, but just kept losing too many puck-battles. He is simply not as tenacious as Gaudreau, and not as strong as Granlund it seems. He IS getting better, however, and I agree with you there. What I posted wasn't the same CRAP. Did I say he lost every puck-battle? I didn't realize I would have to go into perfect detail describing every single positive and negative play - I saw him lose many more puck-battles than he won, so this is an 'area of concern' for me regarding him. That doesn't mean he loses every single one - just he loses more than he wins. So he gets credited with a takeaway - great! Doesn't show that my point is wrong. Again, this is what I said:



"Quite a number" is not the same as "Every single".

If Sven improves his play and earns a permanent roster spot this season and becomes a great player (something I think is within his ability, actually), he will not even 'prove me wrong'. I have maintained that Baertschi is a very skilled prospect, and I am glad that the Flames do indeed have him in the organization. I am just thinking his development is just taking longer. I am hardly someone who 'has it in' for Baertschi. Once again, just because I see him as a different player at the moment than how you see him, doesn't make what I say "Crap".

Funny that you think I have some "Anti-Sven" bias going on and that I have some sort of evil and insidious motive to bash him at every turn. I have stated numerous times that this kid will be a pretty important player, but that it seems it will just take some time. Guess we are seeing two very different players on the ice there. You really don't think that happens? Someone has to be fabricating a fictional narrative when it doesn't agree with your own, so you must call them lame, accuse them of having a bias, and insist they are being passive-aggressive? Please point out where I was passive-aggressive in that post.



No idea what post from here I wrote that got copy/pasted onto HF (don't really care either way), but if I feel like having a discussion based on what someone from over there said, I will go over there and have a discussion. I don't see the point in discussing here what someone from there has said about a post I made here that got copied and pasted there (partially, fully, out of context?) and whose reply was copied from there and pasted here (again - partially, fully, out of context?) so we can end up arguing over he said, she said... See how confusing it is already? If I want to address what a poster on HF has said about a post I wrote here, I will go there and do so, not form any rebuttal (if I even disagree or have a rebuttal to give) and write it here so you can copy/paste it there.

This is CalgaryPuck. I come here to have discussions here. If I felt my time was better served in HF, I would do so. I do visit that other site from time to time, but rarely (if ever) in the Flames forum there, as I find it is just not active enough and I get all the information I am looking for regarding the Flames here. I mostly go there just to read what is going on with other teams when I have time. I find this site meets my needs.
If somebody brings up a good point, be it another forum or an article or on the radio, it is worthy of mention. This is not a new concept that I've invented.

But glad you ignored it as you are wont to do.

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