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Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood
Ok I've had enough, I'm calling you out.
Please don't act like you don't have a bias on Sven Baertschi. I've read your "Sven reports" over the last 3 games and they really are a stretch. You write up 5-7 bashing paragraphs about him on his first 2 games where he had 7 and 10 minutes in those games.
He wasn't at 7 mins in the first period as you report. He had 8 shifts and 5:30 in the first. In the first Monahan was at 7:02. Other players also hovered around 7 mins. You were just trying to make it seem like he got ice in the first, but made mistakes and lost puck battles so thats why he didn't have the same ice time later in the game. Trying to paint a picture that suits your Sven bashing motives. Lame.
As far as your issue with the "disappointing icing" he had in the first, I like how you failed to mention that it was Sven who cut off the pass along the boards, breaking up the shooting gallery that had been going on in our zone for 40 seconds where the Flames were running around in panic mode. He broke up the pass, carried it out of our zone and was met by the TB defender coming at him. He didn't just fire it up the ice for ####s and giggles or because he is lazy. As you say "Just skate a little bit more before dumping it!" Like it was that easy. Watch the play again. I did.
You also failed to mention it was Sven who got the puck out of the zone for the line change off of the icing faceoff in our zone. Big surprise you left that out. You made it seem as though his "disappointing icing" lost us the game or cost us a goal. It actually let us regroup from the relentless attack of TB and got us a line change 9 seconds into that shift.
Also like how you just dismiss the advanced stat line of Sven last night. It doesn't fit your Sven isn't good enough obsession. You constantly saying that he loses puck battles is also not true. He may lose some, but you talk like he has no chance and loses every one of them. The Flames had three takeaways last night. One of them belonged to Sven. How could he possibly get credited with a takeaway if he loses every puck battle or doesn't try hard enough defensively?
If you are just going to continue being passive aggressive when discussing his play and make false statements, trying to paint a picture that simply isn't true for whatever reason, maybe you should stop discussing his play. Just because you keep saying the same crap doesn't make it true.
Baertschi had a much better game than his first two, the work ethic was there and he was engaged even with only 11 mins of icetime. I'm not saying he had some AMAZING game, but give the guy some props for trying to work his way to more icetime and responsibility without bashing him right after you begrudgingly give him a little credit.
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As Mike F pointed out, it is absolutely comfirmation bias. C4L and others are focusing in and looking for mistakes. The issues that they've pointed out are mistakes that every single player on this team makes and would like to improve on.
That doesn't mean a player didn't have a good game. It just means he wasn't perfect.
Again, considering his role with the team right now, I don't understand why people are expecting perfection. All things considered, Baertschi had a very good game last night.
Somebody on HF Flames posted what C4L posted here and one person responded with this before the game:
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I did watch specifically Sven for every second he was on the ice in the first period last game (after the fact). The times when he was coasting, he was coasting in good position, with the puck somewhere else on the ice. When he wasn't where he was supposed to be, he skated hard to where he was supposed to be. I don't understand how you're supposed to cover the point guy with intensity while the puck is in the far corner, or get in the cross-ice passing lane on the backcheck with intensity while the puck carrier is on the far boards. Sven did a lot of things with intensity. He chased the puck down with intensity on the forecheck. He tried to disrupt the breakout as the long forechecker... again with intensity. So I can't agree with that analysis. Again, it seems that it's trying to match what the poster sees with what the poster thinks he sees. What I saw in my viewing (as I mentioned before) was over and over again the puck finding ways to avoid Sven. It's a two game sample size. It can't keep up forever.
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People keep using these buzz words. Intensity. Energy. Apparently Sven needs to be moving his feet at all times to be considered intense (even when he's already in the right position). It's odd. I don't know what people want to see.
Does Sven need to sit on the bench with intensity? Is he otherwise pouting?