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Old 10-24-2014, 05:53 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814 View Post
When was the last time anything happened at the Saddledome beyond some drunk being an a-hole? It's not a risk. It's never been a risk. It didn't become a risk because someone did something evil 3000 kilometers away. This is ####ing Canada.

Obviously on a very small scale, but this is literally how terrorists win. Even on a tragedy the scale of 9/11. 3000 people died, and the US spent several trillion dollars on two wars they couldn't win, obliterated their own civil liberties and protections, created a culture of fear and mistrust among the most powerful nation on earth. Oh but they got bin Laden. Worth it.

9/11 was a horrible tragedy. It was also an outlier. Let's overreact to the thing that never ever happens, and in the name of it never ever happening again, let's completely renounce most of the things that were worth fighting for in the first place.
I actually agree with sentiment of your post entirely. But a few things:

- when was the last time something happened T the dome? When was the last time something happened at the war memorial before this week? Realize it doesn't change your point, but really only guarding places that things have happened at before seems incredibly short sited.
- I would also think that right after something like this happens is when a couple of things happen that lead to more security:
1. Copy cat crimes probably go up as losers try to jump on e bandwagon
2. I bet it brings more crazies out who make threats on locations. These won't all get disclosed to the public, as likely they aren't credible but you still, don't want to be caught holding the bag not having ramped up security after receiving an increase in threats.

And finally, to your point it's all about levels. Do I think having to go through a metal detector to go through games is really the terrorist winning because it's adding complexity and fear and inconvenience to our lives, no. Doesn't really do any of those things, and it's a mild inconvenience at most, and was likely not brought in to stop terror more so than violence amount fans.

On the flip side,mi had a friend critique the London public transit system,e after the attacks in 2005. His stance was they new it was a risk, they should have had airport style security to use the underground and bus'. My reaction to him was exactly the same as your to this. Do that, and the terrorists win. The whole point of public transit is to have a quick easy and cost effective way to get around. Add security checks to that and you completely ruin the point and system, too much caution and change in that case. For me, having checks at a sporting event just doesn't really add much pain, so why not.
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