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Originally Posted by Lionel Steel
Sliver can't use the a disparaging term for the mentally disabled because it "communicates a specific meaning to him," but you can use a disparaging term for the obese because it communicates a specific meaning to you? Would it really be that hard for you to honor Dom Deluise without using a word that could offend a large group of people? Was Captain Chaos taken?
Would someone be allowed to have the user name "Full ######" if they cited their love of Tropic Thunder as the reasoning behind it?
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Oh Lionel… the problem with very selective quoting is that you can completely mischaracterize someone’s position. Perhaps that was your intent. “can’ t use”? Of course, I never said that. Not that I could disallow someone’s behavior, but I haven’t even suggested that stance.
I note you chose not to quote where I said it was fine if people didn’t agree with my position on this issue, nor did you quote where I explicitly stated that no one is any under obligation to change their behavior in this context. Or the multiple times I said this is really a consideration issue.
As for my username, it is telling those who insist they should not stop using the word “######” want to make this about everything other than the specific issue raised in the OP. But sure, I’ll play along.
Of course, you misunderstood my position. I wasn’t honouring Dom Deluise, I was honouring the spirit of the movie and maybe I wasn’t clear about that. I take your point about Tropic Thunder, though it wasn’t called “Full ######” and, in any event, it wasn’t at all about empowerment but was rather a cynical look at Hollywood appropriation of various groups for profit (and for the record, I effing love Tropic Thunder).
You also conveniently glide past the text I also cited. More importantly, and also conveniently, you also glide past where I said in my years on this board no one has raised in any way my username with me, but if they did “I would have gladly had any such conversation”. But hey, why let basic facts prevent you from mischaracterizing someone’s position if it can make someone else seems as unreasonable as you?
Of course, the only relevant line of argument against my username here would be for you to show me a campaign by Motionball or someone else to ban the word fatso presented on this board and with which I disagreed. You're welcome to draw the same to my attention.
But even if I’m wrong about my username, as totally irrelevant to this issue as it is, does it invalidate what I’ve said? Does it invalidate what Titan, KTrain, Daradon and others have said? As I said to 4x4 if you want to argue my credibility or think I'm disingenuous, take it to PM. It doesn’t really have much to do with Motionball’s campaign, does it?