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Calling people stupid regardless of reason should not be. Especially when done in a general sense.
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And in principle I agree but it's easy to say, harder to do. Do we want a forum with absolutely zero tolerance for any kind of negative comment against any person or group of people? Sure would make it easier to moderate, but I don't think it would go well.
"Lining up for 5 days to get a phone is stupid.", allowed? The implication is the people are stupid, but the grammar is that the lining up is stupid.
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So you shouldn't be allowed to say your are stupid because you believe in god and go to church.
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I tend to agree and I don't think I've ever made such an argument myself.
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Attack the idea not the person.
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Which we already kind of promote, in working on the rules I think we made this a higher level more explicit kind of thing.
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One thing to remember is although people say that religion is a choice it isn't really. Essentially religion is brainwashed into children to varying degrees as they age and coming out as an athiest can be as ostricising as coming out. So I think some degree of empathy needs to be taken.
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Oh for sure, I'm much further along that line that most, I've made the same kind point about ISIS members even.
But there still is a basic difference. As you say saying "Religion X is harmful to society" is allowed, but saying "women are harmful to society" or "queers are harmful to society" would not be.