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Originally Posted by Parallex
Every one I've seen (that I remember anyways).
I've seen quite a few studies that aimed to examine the effects of fighting (momentum/deterrence etc. etc.) every one of them came to the conclusion that it has effectively no impact. Scoring rates within 5 minutes of a fight (indicator of momentum)? Effectively the same as other even strength minutes, Next goal scored (indicator of momentum)? No positive corrolation, Deterrence? No corralation between fighting and lesser drawn non-obstruction/bench penalties (the stuff that would be called "cheap shots"... charging/boarding/slashing etc.).
Thus far I haven't seen anything that demonstates that fighting actually does what it's proponents claim it does to say nothing of doing to the extent that it justifies having a guy, who by virtue of actual hockey talent, wouldn't hold down a roster spot or play any minutes.
If someone is entertained by it, good for them. I'm not going to tell someone what they should be entertained by... but there just isn't an argument in favor of it from a hockey perspective.
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To the first bold, that is the wrong conclusion to draw.
The studies attempt to find a correlation between a fight and a tangible result afterwards. They didn't. That doesn't mean that it had no impact, it simply means that they didn't see a correlation with the 'impact' that was tested.
The more plausible conclusion is that they have been unable to determine what the impact is, not that there is no impact.
As for the prior argument using Eakins (being a bad coach) to refute the argument that teams continue to utilize them, therefore they must have value...
Eakins is an individual example and one failed coach does not disprove that NHL coaches are worthy of being NHL coaches. It is not a valid example. The primary difference is the
ongoing use, by
multiple (most) teams.
Where the goal is winning and there are extremely limited resources to deploy in the pursuit of said goal, it speaks
volumes that teams continue to deploy fairly significant resources in this way.