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Originally Posted by rubecube
Wait, are we talking judicially or socially? If it's judicially, then I completely agree. The justice system and law enforcement need to do a better job of responding to male victims of IPV. And socially, I'm in agreement that more needs to be done to provide resources for men. However the reason why we focus on women more is because the effects of Ray Rice cracking his wife in an elevator were certainly more pronounced than say when Solange Knowles attacked Jay-Z. And to witty's point, far more women end up seriously injured or dead as a result of intimate partner violence than men. The risk of serious consequences as a result of IPV are much higher for women than men. I don't think that's a hypocritical statement, as it's heavily backed up by data.
Do we have sufficient resources to address both? I'm not sure we even have sufficient resources to address one. Women's shelters are constantly underfunded, police are often inadequately trained to respond to domestic violence situations, or enforce restraining orders against men who are likely to escalate to the point of serious physical harm or murder.
I wasn't supporting it. I think it's ridiculous. I was just trying to explain where the problem lies.
Again, in legal terms, yes. If she's guilty then her team should take appropriate action. If she's a violent drunk who can't control herself, maybe she needs to seek treatment. That said, I don't think this case is analogous to the Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson cases. It's still wrong, and she should be ashamed of herself, but getting into a drunken brawl with your sister is much different than slugging your wife, who is considerably smaller than you, or beating a defenseless toddler with a tree branch. I don't know all of the details of the Solo case, but from what's been reported, I'm struggling to see the similarities.
And yeah, I think one of the biggest steps we need to take in reducing violence against everyone is re-examining traditional gender roles and stresses they put on individuals. That doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the raw data that speaks to the severity of IPV, depending on which partner is the abuser, or the very obvious fact that 220 lb man hitting a 100 lb woman has significantly more severe consequences to the victim than a 100 lb woman hitting a 220 lb man. Hell, switch it around and make it a woman who's built like a LB, drilling Rick Moranis' head against the side of an elevator and I'm going to have the exact same reaction. It's repulsive.
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Its like The NHL 'Wheel of Justice.' The effect justifies the outrage.
If you tomahawk someone in the head and they dont get hurt then its fine, but they have a concussion then its evil.
A woman cant do as much damage to a man because shes smaller and ergo its less important because the likely consequences are less severe. So she has to pick up a weapon or plan an attack which makes it pre-meditated as opposed to 'in the heat of the moment.'
Pre-meditated attacks actually carry longer judicial sentences than emotional attacks.
Hope Solo is much like Ray Rice, shes a professional athlete. I guarantee you that most men outweigh her significantly but she could likely still lay out an epic beatdown on most average Joes.
The Macro Worldview of this isnt all that relevant; Hope Solo, a female professional athlete committed the same crime that some male professional athletes have also recently committed.
But she is getting a free pass from her team, her sponsors, public opinion and the law.
Why?