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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
The Stats Canada reports show that guns are used in a tiny portion of intimate partner crimes. Assuming that all the guns used in these offenses are in the hands of law-abiding citizens, you reduce the incidence of intimate partner crime by 576 out of 97,500 cases. Keep in mind, these are cases where the most serious weapon found was a firearm. The 2011 StatsCan report measuring violence against women shows an even lower number. Out of 77,943 cases of a violent crime committed against a woman by an intimate partner, only 57 cases involved the pointing, use of or discharge of a firearm. That is 0.073% of all cases.
Your assertion that getting rid of guns will cause a drastic reduction in gun related offenses is mostly correct. Without guns, you can't have gun crime. This assumes that all these offenses were committed by people who would follow a confiscation order if it was implemented. The problem with this is that you have focused primarily on GUNS and not reducing violent crime as a whole.
You'll never hear someone say "we got rid of guns and reduced the amount violent crime against women by an intimate partner from 77,943 cases to maybe only 77,886 cases!". What you'll actually hear is "we banned guns and the majority of gun crimes against women by an intimate partner dropped to almost nothing!". This also assumes that all 57 of those people who used a gun illegally against an intimate partner ONLY want to use their gun and would not use other means of abusing them.
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You misunderstand the point of gun control. No one is claiming that reducing access to guns will reduce violence. What gun control advocates argue is that reducing access to guns will reduce the damage caused by that violence.
For example, access to a firearm is likely irrelevant to whether or not Mr. Whiteacre gets drunk, comes home, and takes out the frustrations of his unrealized hopes and dreams on Ms. Whiteacre. However, access to a firearm is likely relevant to whether or not Ms. Whiteacre wakes up in the morning with a black eye and a broken jaw or whether she doesn't wake up at all. Obviously, both options are abhorrent, but one is clearly preferable to the other.