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Old 09-15-2014, 12:38 PM   #583
Oling_Roachinen
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Originally Posted by dissentowner View Post
You are just trolling now, you keep going in the same circles with nothing new to say. You are disappointed over something you made up, good for you. You keep twisting what I posted to fit your own agument which confirms you don't actually have one. Get over it.
You're the one who asked for a reason why someone who has done no wrong would refuse to ID if requested. The simple fact is they wouldn't need to provide you one as they got a good enough reason, the Charter of Rights. The fact that you've explicitly said that isn't a valid reason and explicitly said that a person simply exercising his right is reason enough for you to believe they have "something to hide" is not only disappointing to hear coming from a police officer but down right scary.

And of course you parrot the "nothing to hide" argument. But where does that end? If we have nothing to hide we should let you go through our car? House? Body cavities? Internet history? Text messages? It's the same tiresome excuse everytime someone like the NSA wants to take away privacy and legal rights. Of course you followed that up by talking about how somehow not giving a name would lead to deaths, nothing but fear mongering.

If you want a reason for someone not giving their information to an officer if requested, you're the reason. A cop who will assume someone simply exercising their rights has something to hide or is doing it for legal reasons is the reason a citizen should be wary of the police, you're clearly not on their side.

And Bent Wookie, we've established that the officer has simply requested ID. In this scenario the citizen, as decided in court, has every right to refuse the request. Request being keyword.
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