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Old 09-11-2014, 12:30 PM   #780
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Thanks again, I'll have to check out videos later however.

A list of some additives and adjuvants to vaccines, the recommendation being to check for sensitivity before being injected, which almost no one does :
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

A list of where some of the ingredients are found :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ne_ingredients

There are alternatives to all of these, without reducing effectiveness, but are more expensive in almost every instance. I don't have time to search, but a little investigation will find the alternatives. Quick example, elimination of formaldehyde :
http://www.ehs.psu.edu/help/info_she...o_Formalin.pdf

The argument seems to usually be that these are found in 'acceptable' or 'safe' levels in all vaccinations, and it is the responsibility of the patient to find out if there would be a negative reaction to a small dose.

A better than safe or acceptable amount would be no amount. Pass the added cost onto the consumer, we would be happy to pay. Just get rid of it. Aluminum, formaldehyde and MSG all have their own health risks associated with them. Why are they present at all when there are alternatives?
Because they are safe, have been shown to be safe, and are well studied and well understood.

The PBS doc covers all this nicely. The problem is people are taking ingredients and being overly concerned because they don't understand the context and basic chemistry is needed here.

Like has been said, formaldehyde in one apple is found 100's times more in that one fruit than is found in minuscule amounts in a vaccine. I see parents feeding babies fruit baby food with this, no one freaks out there, nor should they. The amounts we are talking about are beyond harmless, yet it sounds scary.

This is the problem, communicating to parents the safety is the problem, people are google warriors and find anit vaxx websites which tout these dangers which are totally detached from the science.

Legitimate concerns are always welcome, but these issues being brought up have been studied and refuted over and over, which is why its frustrating people keep bringing it up.

Context matters, science matters, but distrust in medical science is high, and google isn't helping matters as people seek out sites which agree with their fears and ignore the facts.

This the same stuff you run into when you deal with 9/11 conspiracy theorists, moon landing fakers, etc.. You provide the facts, they refute them based on distrust of authority, conspiratorial ideas, and at some point you just have to stop and listen to the experts, the vast amounts of study and data that has looked into all this, we have decades of research and understand these things extremely well.

Check out the PBS doc, it covers I think pretty much all the concerns parents might have with facts, the risks, and the reality of this issue, which is we are dealing with an incredibly safe medical method with incredibly successful results.
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