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Old 09-11-2014, 09:09 AM   #845
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Originally Posted by terminator View Post
Man, you guys sure are trying hard though.
No we're not. I'm an atheist. I've never tried to disprove the existence of supernatural god(s) because such an endeavour is impossible. I merely reject the claim that any kind of supernatural force exists, Abrahamic or otherwise, in the absence of compelling scientific evidence. Most atheists I know (warning: anecdotal!) feel the same way.

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Again you, as all atheists I have met, have defaulted to the abrahamic definition of god. God does not exist to fill holes in many non-western religions, the concept of god in many religions trancsends earth.

For example, there are plenty of religions out there that do not think Earth is the centre of the universe, or that we are the only capable life forms. As a Sikh we are taught the concept of the big bang not only as a physical phenomena that created our universe but also one that spread the soul. All things are elastic in nature (gravity), hence the Universe expanding and then contracting similarly all metaphysical life was spread and must return to singularity.

I am in no way trying to prove to you god exists, except that you need to realize there are many more gods then the western excepted god that has a beard and physical form.
And I reject that notion for the same reason I reject the Abrahamic God, Odin, Hephaestus, Jupiter, Osiris, Vishnu, Chang'e, the entire concept of the Buddhist reincarnation cycle, and every other supernatural, non-observable force that has ever been claimed to exist by any religion. There is no scientific evidence for a "soul", so why should I accept your claim that the Big Bang spreads the soul?

Also, all things are not elastic in nature. The most widely accepted theory in cosmology based on our current understanding of astrophysics is that the universe will continue expanding forever until its eventual heat death, aka the "Big Freeze". The theory that gravity will eventually force a collapse of the universe into a singularity ("the Big Crunch") has fallen out of favour with scientists.
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