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Old 09-06-2014, 04:36 PM   #423
Chill Cosby
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Default YLYL Thread Sexism Discussion (split from Gay Teen thread).

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Originally Posted by Bootsy View Post
I agree, in the past I've only briefly checked out the YLYL a few times for the pictures and never paid much attention to the commentary.
I did enjoy the hot Olympians thread ( and had no problem with the female posters posting men in that thread) I thought both were fine, and voted to keep as is.

After all the negative comments about the YLYL thread from a few posters in this thread particularly the female members I decided to have a look back to see what all the fuss was about. I went back a few months only to find the 2 posts with the most thanks were posts made by photon rightfully chastising another poster's harsh and childish comments about a picture posted.
I then used the search this thread function since it is such a big thread of over 300 pages and 4 years old using the words Eastern girl says are common in there like "bang" "destroy" "wreck" .... Tap and hit unfortunately were to short for the search function to find. The results found in over 300 pages and 4 years , is that those terms were barely used at all and when the terms were used it wasn't in the context she implied. I'm sure there is some negative comments I missed doing it this way but using the results as an example shows how exaggerated the problem is. Anyone can check for themselves to see.

I'm sure there is the odd questionable comment in there but not to the degree portrayed by the members against it in here, and no more than other countless threads in the off topic section. And if there is a questionable remark reporting that singular post to a moderator is easy enough to do ,rather than banning an entire thread.

The existence of the thread itself is seen as harmful by the female posters here, and seems to encourage the societal reg that suggests scrutinising a women by her appearance is A-OK.

flameswin most recently had probably the best post that thread has seen in the time I've been around. It was two beautiful women, dressed normally, and he talked about what it is that makes them awesome (and while he didn't specifically name them, he rightfully assumed more should know them).

If every post was "Check out this girl/guy, here's who they are, here's what makes them 'hot' as a person" instead of the nameless parade of "Look, something with boobs!" then I think you'd have a totally different outlook on the thread. Instead, it's not about hot "women", because a woman is a lot more than just her body, it's just "hot bodies", and it reduces these people down to that. No name, sometimes no face, rarely an explanation of who they are (and often a "I was too distracted to notice!"), and overall not much interest in treating them like full human beings, but just tittie picks to ogle over.

As has been said, that's totally an issue in society too, but that doesn't mean CP has to wait to make that change for the better. Even the comments when GirlySports brought up the volleyball player, a whole lot of "I don't get it" and "Well I guess she's alright."

If it was truly about appreciation, then those comments (even innocent in intent) would cease to exist. Instead it's about judgement and titilation.

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Originally Posted by Bootsy View Post
Basically I think this has been a witch hunt by members who do not even go into the YLYL thread other than to find something to be outraged about, trying to shine the thread into a more negative light just for their own social-political reasons.
I wanted to address this separately. A lot of times when something is being brought up as an issue that doesn't have an impact on someone, they tend to label it in a way that de-values it. This is not a witch hunt, it has nothing to do with the level of frequency one visits the YLYL thread, and most importantly did not manifest itself because someone had to find something to be outraged about. Not to mention the fact that it isn't a socio-political issue (though that did have a nice ring to it) and is really just a social issue.

Dismissing the harm that the female posters on here feel this thread causes as nothing more than a found opportunity for outrage is really indicative of the whole issue here.

I guess out of curiosity, knowing the harm it does (even if you don't believe it to be true), what's the benefit of keeping it? What benefit does the thread bring to the community on it's own merits that would make any harm caused irrelevant?

Last edited by Chill Cosby; 09-06-2014 at 04:40 PM.
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