[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Glass houses.

I…I don't even know how to respond to this. You think that anything I've said resembles you name calling people you have a disagreement with? That's a really immature response.

Honestly, if you think the objective or point was "don't be mean to girls" or being "offensive" is bad then you really weren't even investing in the point in the first place, nor showing any signs of even beginning to see the issue, so it's hard for me to address you with the same gravity you desire.

I don't know how you see it that way, that seems to be the point of this discussion. How to make things more inclusive and be less unintentionally offensive. You, on the other hand, seem to act like a martyr throughout this thread, fighting "the good fight", no matter what people actually are saying to you. You're mad at the way our society is constructed, not what individuals are doing or saying, so stop going after individual people. And, even if they say something you don't agree with or might be a little backward, do not talk to them like they are 5 years old because they just "don't get it". It's condescending and completely inaccurate. They get it, they just don't agree with you. Tough to handle, I know, but that's the way the world works.

If your point is that people can say something without meaning to be mean, well, I'm not sure quoting me helps you, because I fully meant to be mean (specifically to misogynists and sexists, to be fair). When someone says "Well I paid for that woman, so I have the right to judge her" or looks at a random picture of an Asian woman and says "Probably hard to hear anything over the sound of cash registers" then yeah, maybe they didn't "mean" to be cruel, but they're being a lot worse than cruel.

I don't think that justifies being insulting and condescending to the "others" that you think exist on this forum. If you want to change minds you'll never do it by being insulting, but rather appealing to their intellect, morals, and values. Whether you believe you're justified in using those words (you're not), it does nothing to help your cause and further entrenches both sides.

Are you one of those people? Someone who thinks he has a level of ownership over a woman? That she is a product which he buys and sells at his leisure? If not, then I'm not sure what you found offensive about my comment, because it wasn't directed at you, nor did I purposely direct it at any one person, as to not fully "judge" said person based on online comments alone.

Misogyny and sexism isn't about being offensive or hurt feelings, it's a lot more grandiose than that.

You assume way too much here. I'm upset because you used horrible words to describe men you disagree with, insofar as to make them seem incapable of having the basic intelligence to be more than a grunting caveman. That, right there, is sexist because you are judging these men to be incapable of understanding or learning and are reducing them to a purely physical being with no brain. You also assume that anyone that is offended by those words is also "one of those". If you can't see the problem with that then YOU'RE missing the point now. It's sexism bordering on misandry.