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Originally Posted by _Q_
I'm not sure why you're hung up on the lack of make-up part. Like it or not that's part of the production process used to produce a quality, attractive photograph. Without the production involved in producing such a picture, these celebrities don't look like the goddesses that many people idolize. And yes the make-up is part of their image.
No I wouldn't say that to any of their faces. In the same way none of us would tell Shane O'Brian that he's a crappy hockey player or (pick your least favorite singer) is a terrible singer or your coworker is a terrible engineer/accountant/project manager/whatever. That's how society works.
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I'm not just hung up on that. The point is that you have no right to pass judgement on those people. You can't argue that it's ok to judge models BECAUSE they take pictures for the public, but judge the private photographs of women that you were never intended to see. You know what female celebrities without make-up or without production quality look like? Women. Regular women. So by passing judgement on them as "Not beautiful" because they don't have make-up or aren't photoshopped, you are insulting pretty much every woman on the planet. Great work.
On your second point:
As pointed out, there's the rub. This IS society. This IS public. You are not behind closed doors. You are not in the boy's club or with your buddies. You are in a public space where WOMEN read your comments. You wouldn't make fun of a picture of a handicapped person in front of another handicapped person (just a random example), so why in the WORLD would you make disparaging comments about a woman in front of other women? Doesn't that go against how society functions?
This isn't talking about the talent or work-quality of someone. This is talking about the way someone is born, or in general, the physical attributes of someone. By turning that into a product for which you are to judge (like a hockey game, or an album, or whatever) you are objectifying these women.
If you want to look at a picture and point out the problems with THE PICTURE, then go crazy. Hell, if you want to take that picture and point out the problems with the way the model is posing, or the outfit, go crazy, because that's part of "the job" just like commenting on the Flames jerseys or Shane O'Brien's puck skills. But to take a picture and point out the body issues of the woman? Sorry, THAT isn't how society works.