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Originally Posted by Arya Stark

I do not think most would answer it's because they feel sexually harassed at other unisex gyms, but hey I could be wrong.

And the answer doesn't seem relevant in any way. Discrimination based on gender is illegal, except in cases where the discrimination is judged to be justified. Why a small sampling of women happen to attend one specific gym wouldn't speak to why a judge would determine that the discrimination is justified for an entire jurisdiction. Polling all statistically representation of all women going to all gyms then it would seem to be more relevant.

Or better yet why not contact a professor on women's rights law and find out what the real reasons are and what information contributed to that.

Far more informative than random polls of one small group of people.

Originally Posted by pylon

That is the point I am trying to make.

What's the real number of men that are sexual predators? 1%? 2%?

So we label the other 98-99% as a potential threat because of a small scumbag minority?

But it's not about you being labelled, because you aren't. It's about most women experiencing sexism and misogyny at a high enough rate that it seriously impacts their lives, and the law deciding that a separate exercise place is a reasonable thing to avoid that. What percentage of men are perpetrating it isn't relevant, the degree to which women are impacted is what's relevant.

In addition, it doesn't have to be scumbags that perpetuate sexism and misogyny. There's a ton of sexist comments on this forum all over the place made by people that I would consider good people, they don't even realize it.

Originally Posted by pylon

Again, my issue is with the stereotyping of men, and the wide strokes that are used to paint us all as potential predators.

And again that's not the intent, because it's not about men. If there is unfair stereotyping going on (and I'm sure there is by some, there's extremes in anything) then of course that's bad. But having a separate women's gym isn't stereotyping, it's not about avoiding men, it's about avoiding harm. That the harm is coming primarily from men in that case then that's just an unfortunate reality, but it's not the reason behind the law that allows women's gyms. It's about women, not men.