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Originally Posted by photon

Maybe, or at least I see comedians say things that would be considered racist (or sexist or otherwise offensive) and still see them as funny without actually being racist.. though I guess that's different maybe, as the comedian is usually playing on the stereotype itself rather than the subject of the stereotype.

Yeah, I think there's a difference between satire and jokes that blatantly demean an entire race. I guess going back to the poster at work analogy, would you be comfortable with having those posters at work as the long as there were clear warnings indicating which areas to avoid if one didn't want to see said posters? To me, it would still seem to make the place a little less welcoming to women.

People basically post what they like, and the times when someone's objected to something being posted because it didn't meet some standard the response usually equates to STFU, but maybe that's just my rose coloured memory. I'd want that to be the case.

And obviously that's cool if it is in fact the case.

I hope so, but I'm not sure. I certainly have seen posts outside of that thread that shame pictures of women based on their appearance though.

People post what they find physically attractive for the most part in that thread, sometimes other abilities are a factor

Yeah, and I guess that's why I had the questions I did. There have been incidents on this board that certainly would make some people skeptical of the intentions of the thread.

I guess in a way I see it like posting musicians in a my favourite artist type thread; evaluating someone based only on their musical prowess. One can objectify based on anything, and that's not necessarily bad as long as it's subject most of the time object sometimes.

In some ways it's similar, and certainly the negative side of objectifying musicians shows up when they make political statements and the response is "I don't give a crap what you think. I just want to hear the music." It still feels different to me because in most instances it should be their body of work that is being objectified and not necessarily who they are as a person, but that might be splitting hairs. I guess another similar argument is the way we objectify professional athletes to the point that we don't really care when they're injured on a personal level. They're just simply objects for our entertainment.

It's just that we live in a society where objectification of women is an actual systemic problem. If we were trying to advertise CP by using women jumping topless on a trampoline that'd be different.. or at least it feels different.

Well that and the fact that so much of a woman's worth seems to judged on physical attractiveness. I'd imagine one of the other reasons some of the women on here might be annoyed with it is because it's just another bombardment of the same crap they have to witness multiple times, every day. And I guess that maybe while the thread's intention isn't to reduce women to mere sexual objects, the thread probably does provide a space for those who have reduced women in such a way to continue to do so, which I could also see as frustrating to some people because the internet is already littered with such spaces.