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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
Oh, give me a break. Misogyny is not liking girls in bikinis.
Also ironic considering your avatar.
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Pretty sure the avatar is meant to be a tongue-in-cheek response to all of the similar avatars depicting women.
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Originally Posted by photon
OTOH some of the comments in the thread make me cringe a bit inside, but it's really difficult for me to judge where the line is. It's not like having a bikini babe poster in a workplace since it's only visible if one chooses.
Is having the thread itself misogynistic?
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That's a fair question. I guess the concept of the thread itself isn't misogynistic, but if some of the comments are making you a cringe a bit, then I think that does speak to some of the misogyny some of the women on this site have been uncomfortable with (for the record I haven't really been in that thread). I'm not advocating for the removal of the thread, because in a sense you're right about it not being like a poster in a workplace. At the same time, would you be comfortable having a "Racist jokes" thread and using the same "it's only visible if one chooses" argument?
In addition, is the thread structured in such a way that people could post pictures of women who don't conform to traditional or Western standards of beauty and not be ridiculed? Further to this, if there are women on this forum who are attracted to other women, is the thread safe for them to enter and not feel shamed about their appearances by some of the comments from other members?
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I don't think appreciating attractive women is in itself objectification any more than appreciating smart women is. And I don't think that a woman being sexual is the bad thing that society sometimes makes it out to be (a girl seeking sex is seen different than a boy seeking sex).
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Couldn't intelligence be seen as one factor of attractiveness, or is the thread exclusively dedicated to physical attractiveness? And yeah, appreciation is certainly different than objectification, but I think the tone of the thread and the comments you've alluded could make it hard to discern between the two. Agreed on the second point. If a woman is proud of her body and wants to show it off, then I'm not going to tell her not to.