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Old 08-29-2014, 01:14 PM   #499
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
I sort of understand that.

Some folks have trouble dealing with facts.



The last year that Seteguchi and Clowe played together was 2010-11

Ryane Clowe, LW gp 75 goals 24 asst 38 pts 62 +13 PIM 100 TOI 17:58

Devin Setoguchi, RW 72 22 19 41 -2 37 15:12


Setoguchi played very well in the playoffs:

Devin Setoguchi, RW 18 7 3 10 -7 12 17:26

but Clowe was no slouch

Ryane Clowe, LW 17 6 9 15 5 32 19:27

In fact most fans, coaches, analysts, casual hockey observers would say that Clowe was clearly the better more important player.

Sharks management saw that by signing and dumping Setoguchi and keeping Clowe


If you don't see that Clowe was a better player in 2010-11 and that Setoguchi was along for a ride as the 6th or 7th best forward (spare part) on a very talented Shark team then I can see how what I say would not make a significant impression in your world perspective.
The reason posters here don't take you seriously is because you often seem unable to see beyond the fact that correlation does not imply causation. You take a snapshot of whatever points illustrate your case the best, while ignoring all the other evidence that contradict your points. You take views and defend them even when posters with differing views present more evidence to the contrary, and often simply ignore it.

Your 'facts' are often unrelated observations that you twist into facts, and that is why it may appear that so many posters here have a 'trouble dealing with facts'.

I was a Setoguchi fan for about one season, but even I think you are making him out to be WAY worse than he is, and are criminally underrating how good he used to be.

Also, being the 6th (in your own words - 6th or 7th) best player on a team is not a spare part - that is a top 6 player, on a top team. Your whole case against Setoguchi stops making any sense as soon as you typed that out.
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