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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

You bring up an interesting point with Neuer.
Here's how I differentiate the winner.
Do Bayern & Germany still win without him?
I think they do.

Does Portugal make it to the world cup without Ronaldo?
Does Real win champions league trophy?
They sure as shiyite do not.

Thats fair enough, who has a bigger impact for their team. Portugal were basically a one-man show.

I just feel that Neuer is redefining the goalkeeping position and its really hard for Goalkeepers to get much recognition.

Originally Posted by polak

What's the fun in picking the obvious choices in every single group? EPL teams choke, all the time. I think they're a good pick to do so.

The English teams typically do well in the CL as has been pointed out.

What would be fun is to find out what the cost of player acquisitions and payroll comparisons are between all the teams in each group. I could probably make a few educated guesses.