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Old 08-28-2014, 12:25 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Agreed . If there is someone that is given a job to do analytics their first job would be to decide what is meaningful statistics and then gather them.

Right now the quality of the public domain (NHL.com) statistics is very poor. The hits and blocked shots and Takeway giveaway stats are very suspect.

CORSI and the possession stats are based on very shakey shots directed at goal and blocked shots stats and whether you are on the ice when this event happens.

There are shots that are directed at the net that are scoring chances and there are shots directed at the net that are dump ins and giving up possession of the puck ... these are counted the same in the general NHL stats.


Even totally taken for grants stats like assists are qualitative as well as quantitative.

Does banging of the boards in your own end that due to another players excellent play and leads to a goal merit the same positive stat as being part of a three way passing play that results in a goal ???


the individual teams that are spending $$$ on analytics should have considerable effort in breaking down game film and extracting meaningful statistics like:

Actual individual time with puck possession.
completed passes.. bad passes
Individual scoring chances.
Quality shots on goal and shots that result in easy saves.
possession changing hits.
Punishing hits
important shot blocks and shot blocks of easy goalie saves.
Entry to the offensive zone: Going off side, carrying the puck in, passing the puck in dumping the puck in and the scoring chances that result from each of these events.

Defensemen standing up at the blue line or backing in, gone around for a scoring chance

Forwards getting back in time or late

picking out the correct player to check.




Teams that create this data would not be sharing it. I do not see how advanced stats would ever become public domain.
thats what SportVU will be able to do

most Basketball arenas already have it and the league is adding it or something like it to every other arena within 2 years I believe

good piece on it from a basketball perspective last year on Grantland, many of the same things it finds will be applicable to Hockey

http://grantland.com/features/the-to...al-revolution/
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