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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Terrorism and fundamentalism is a Hydra. It's a many headed beast and they grow back twice fast as you can cut them off. Every time they take down a leader, two more grow in it's place. The only way to really create a lasting solution is to build stability, create eduction systems, and build an economy to fight the poverty that drives desperate people into the arms of welcoming fanatics.
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So, and just for arguments sake, a lot of these foreign recruits from Canada and the UK and other Western countries come from places with extremely stable education systems and a economy that for the most part doesn't promote poverty. We're seeing examples of people from middle class and upper class environments that get the best advantages in life and still join these groups.
I think that we tend to forget that members of Al Queda that were highly successful came from wealthy families and had upper end education. Sure I would argue that you probably get a lot of cannon fodder from the poorer situations.
But it seems that the real hateful and angry people in these groups come from people that were included in society not excluded, that were included in the educational system not excluded.
To further the argument on the head of the hydra argument, where if you kill one leader two others rise. I've heard this argument, however if the idea is that you target the people with the most to lose, and that's the ones in the leadership roles that aren't quite so willing to die for their cause. On top of that, there is a good chance that if you kill one very smart, educated, charismatic leader, at some point two bone heads will rise in their place and eventually the organization itself will start to over reach and make mistakes.
going back to the whole inclusion thing, you almost have to destroy the organization because they're the ones for the most part that don't allow the poor and uneducated in the middle east to get what they need, they're the ones that manufacture the feelings of exclusion and anger out there.
At the end of the day, the only real solution is to destroy the leadership of groups like ISIS and groups like Hamas, kill their recruiting centers and try to fill in the crater that those actions would leave with something that helps the average poor smuck.
And for the Western people joining up, you don't allow them back in, you kill them and then back track the recruiting methods.
But if you're going to fight ISIS, fight ISIS, no secret jails or trials, treat them like un-uniformed combatants, and when you capture them, kill em.