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Old 08-24-2014, 03:45 PM   #716
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger View Post
Hah! I only wish I was Jason Bourne. But the thing is, I've had years of martial arts training.

Thing is, a lot of people don't fight (this is good, really...) much. I wonder how many people have made it through to their current age without a single actual fight. Most of the folks I know have. So I think that a lot of people tend to discredit just how fast and how much damage can be done by someone who DOES or has fought.

Consider, in this case, the weight differential. Cop is 200, Brown was 300. All Brown would have had to do is bowl into the cop, and all the sudden the cop is underneath and in a very bad way. Brown doesn't even have to 'hit' the cop, all he has to do is lay on him.

Humans are incredibly fragile beings. Yeah, a "one shot to the head to ko or kill" sounds like something out of a movie, but it's not. Consider how often it happens accidentally. As I previously mentioned, a human's windpipe is very close to the front of the neck, which isn't all that big itself.

You don't even have to be a trained fighter. Hopped up on adrenaline and get a lucky shot? Even a small guy can cause some serious one hit damage. That's the crux of a lot of the issues...what sort of risk did you feel you were in?
You've hit the nail on the head. While I have no idea what happened in the Brown case, in a general discussion of lethal force, it is the officers perception of GBH or death that matters and how (if he can) he can articulate that perception afterwards.
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