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Originally Posted by Vulcan
It depends. If the rookie has outgrown the AHL there isn't much sense in him spending more time there. He may not be as effective as Setoguchi early on but if he gets to play, by the end of the season he could be a lot better.
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
They're going to develop career AHLers with their prospects of they don't allow. them to adapt to the NHL.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Has this ever happened before? I'm honestly curious, and this also goes back to an earlier comment by Vulcan conveying concerns that a prospect might "outgrow" the AHL. Are there any players in NHL history whose careers have clearly suffered and stagnated as a result of spending too much time playing in the A?
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Originally Posted by gargamel
What we can say with 100% certainty is that relationships between players and teams have been ruined when teams have been unwilling or unable to find room on their NHL rosters for those prospects.
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
you missed the argument, this wasn't about whether he should have remained in the AHL it's about the relationship being ruined by his lack of opportunity.
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The argument, first mentioned by you, was about players outgrowing the AHL. It then somewhat got turned into a discussion of players not getting opportunity to play in the NHL.
Somehow you came up with Turris. A player that nearly everyone agrees was rushed into the NHL and a full-time NHL player when he requested a trade, completely contradictory to any argument here.
Ironically, you came back with talking about giving players some opportunity to play in the NHL but not be first line players. A fair argument, but exactly the situation Turris was in that concluded with him requesting a trade (assuming it wasn't actually a money issue). Turris had already established himself as an NHL player when he heldout. There was 0 question he would be in Phoenix if he signed. The Turris situation had no more bearings about outgrowing the AHL than something like the Erixon situation or Heatley asking out of Ottawa.
Again, the discussion was about players outgrowing the AHL and having their development stagnated because of it. I can't think of any obvious examples and Turris is 100% not an example of it.