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Old 08-21-2014, 01:36 AM   #602
combustiblefuel
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Originally Posted by Bent Wookie View Post
Wow. Twelve seconds between when the cops pulled up until the first shots were fired.

This IS a lethal force encounter. There is no in between.

During those 12 seconds they drew their firearms and gave clear and concise commands. Neither officer had any cover and aside from that small retaining wall, there was nothing between them and victim. They had to be cognizant of every round- where it might go, what was behind the victim.

Are there other threats or is this just one guy wandering around with a knife. Did he just stab someone or was he in a knife fight with another potential threat?

That victim was well within a grievous bodily harm or fatal distance if he charged.

Transitioning to a taser takes some time- holster and draw. During that period, there is only one firearm on the victim. Do you hope, if he charges, your partner makes a fatal shot? What if he misses? What if they suspect doesn't go down?

Most importantly, do you guys know that effective distance of a taser? Or it's maximum distance? Depending on make and model, effective range is somewhere around 15 feet and maximum somewhere around 25. And that is at a target standing straight in front of you not moving. Add in the fact, a target moves (this guy moved a lot) and baggy clothing (diminishes effectiveness of the taser) and well, the taser isn't looking like the best option.

So that took me maybe 8 minutes to compose. Lot's to think about in 12 seconds?

And you get to sit in front of your computer screen in your fruit of the looms eating cheetos to think about this stuff. Imagine pulling up to it, in context, with everything that is occurring down there, civilians watching and videotaping your every move... 12 seconds.
I understand what does go down and never said it was not justified.

But yes overall , especially in an area where a state of emergency at least show that you have not just jumped to lethal that force.


The personal insults are not necessary. I'm not in a basement in my underwear. You can make a point without the personal attacks. Its not a classy move. I am willing to hear your opinions . Attack my opinion all you want but let's have a mature conversation from here on out with out the mud slinging.

Last edited by combustiblefuel; 08-21-2014 at 02:31 AM. Reason: spelling errors
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