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Old 08-20-2014, 02:26 PM   #783
Chill Cosby
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The NFL games by 2k were better 10 years ago than Madden games are now. Having a choice allowed us to choose between two brands competing for customers. You argument is clouded by emotion and optimism, the 2k games were also sold at a lower price so the customers both had a choice and had to pay less. Haven't bought a football game since EA took over and am not buying the new NHL game so EA being the lone producer is pushing me out of the market.

I don't want 2k back to push EA, I always found 2k games had drastically better animations and just want a 2k game. EA games always have a weird jittery look to it that don't look natural. It was the competition that pushed 2k to release such good games

My argument is clouded by emotion and optimism?
No need to be patronising. I'll be more receptive to your point if you avoid it in the future.

Again, I was arguing against this:
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It would be great if 2k came back and forced EA to make better games.
Which (unfortunately) negates the truth of this statement:
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I don't want 2k back to push EA, I always found 2k games had drastically better animations and just want a 2k game.
If you're sticking by your first statement, then we disagree. However, if you're sticking by your second statement, then we agree, so don't respond in a way which suggests I said anything different.

2k coming back would give consumers choice, which is naturally a good thing. I don't think it would drastically improve EA's product in any real way, it would simply give us consumers an option as to where to spend our money. Would EA change some things? Probably, but whether those changes would make the game better or worse is entirely subjective.

Was NFL 2k5 a more enjoyable game than Madden 14? You know what, maybe it was.

In an objective sense, simulation games now are simply better than they were on the Xbox/PS2. There is more power and more realism than ever before. Are some of the features stale? Yeah, but that's the subjective stuff. Could 2k blow EA out of the water given the amount of subjective stuff they had right in the past, combined with the objectively better engines and hardware at their fingertips? Absolutely.

I guess my point is that statements that refer to EA improving because of the presence of 2k aren't based on any evidence or reality, but 2k would absolutely improve the market for consumers and allow us choice. If 2k comes back with an NHL game that is as bad as 2k10 was, EA won't need to improve a thing. If 2k comes back with an amazing game? Then who cares what EA does? I'm playing 2k.
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