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CaptainCrunch · 08-20-2014, 10:14 AM

People are just learning now that ISIS isn't some freedom fighter group, they are a collection of the worst people out there, psychopaths, Islamo-facists, and worse.

Slowly sawing off the heads of woman and children for your god shows that there is no humanity left in you, that you sold that for a cause where its irrelevant if you believe in it or not.

I think that ISIS publishing the brutal executions of woman and children didn't hit people very hard because it wasn't relatable, it was happening somewhere else and it was middle eastern violence.

But the failure point that people aren't seeing until now is that we're not talking about angry Muslims growing up in poor oppressed countries that are so called striking back.

We're seeing people that are from Western Countries from wealthy families or middle class families that had every benefit of Western Society and were seduced by very saavy recruiters who target outcasts, and losers and psycho's and people that hate more then a 1950's clan meeting in Alabama. they target the guillable, the conspiracy minded and the just plain stupid.

And they promise them a vent to their self perceived wrongs, and they offer them the ability to kill and rape without consequence and they offer them the chance to belong to a group that will accept their evil tendencies.

And they found the best leaders from the extremist groups, the most charismatic leaders, and they grabbed all of the monsters that the American's had in Gitmo and other prisons and bought them together in a caldron of pure hatred and absolute evil. And that's what ISIS is. This isn't about people fighting for Islamic rights, or a Islamic paradise on earth, because frankly if these lunatic's succeed they're going to turn their hatred on their own people as they implement an extreme version of their laws and their governance.

And frankly as this group has more and more success and more propaganda and shows that they can kill and rape and destroy without consequence Their recruiting becomes easier in the Western world, and not all of these recruits are going to be cannon fodder in Iraq. I'm willing to bet that out of the number of people that are recruited that a fairly large percentage are not going over seas, they're here and they're recruiting in their communities. And this movement will grow in the Western World.

Frankly I would think that the execution of a American journalist and the open threats that ISIS is making towards the west is a game changer.

I think that the one benefit of ISIS is that you have a lot of extremists in one area. Personally from a tactics standpoint. Air Strikes against a group like this achieves very little, nor do drone strikes or missile strikes off of ships. You literally have to put special forces on the ground and start killing these people. you have to go after their leadership, and go after their replacements, and you have to be as ruthless and brutal as them. No secret trials, no jail terms no chance of release. you capture them, you put them up against the wall or put or a rope around their necks and send them off to explain their misdeeds to allah.

You contain them in Iraq and you work to wipe them out publicly, loudly and painfully.

At the same time you go after Quatar and Saudi Arabia and their support structure economically. you go after their pipelines of money and support.

For want of better terms you wipe out barbarians, burn their villages and salt the earth to make sure that they don't come back, you don't wait for them to spread.

08-20-2014, 10:14 AM	#472
CaptainCrunch Norm! Join Date: Jun 2002 Exp:	People are just learning now that ISIS isn't some freedom fighter group, they are a collection of the worst people out there, psychopaths, Islamo-facists, and worse. Slowly sawing off the heads of woman and children for your god shows that there is no humanity left in you, that you sold that for a cause where its irrelevant if you believe in it or not. I think that ISIS publishing the brutal executions of woman and children didn't hit people very hard because it wasn't relatable, it was happening somewhere else and it was middle eastern violence. But the failure point that people aren't seeing until now is that we're not talking about angry Muslims growing up in poor oppressed countries that are so called striking back. We're seeing people that are from Western Countries from wealthy families or middle class families that had every benefit of Western Society and were seduced by very saavy recruiters who target outcasts, and losers and psycho's and people that hate more then a 1950's clan meeting in Alabama. they target the guillable, the conspiracy minded and the just plain stupid. And they promise them a vent to their self perceived wrongs, and they offer them the ability to kill and rape without consequence and they offer them the chance to belong to a group that will accept their evil tendencies. And they found the best leaders from the extremist groups, the most charismatic leaders, and they grabbed all of the monsters that the American's had in Gitmo and other prisons and bought them together in a caldron of pure hatred and absolute evil. And that's what ISIS is. This isn't about people fighting for Islamic rights, or a Islamic paradise on earth, because frankly if these lunatic's succeed they're going to turn their hatred on their own people as they implement an extreme version of their laws and their governance. And frankly as this group has more and more success and more propaganda and shows that they can kill and rape and destroy without consequence Their recruiting becomes easier in the Western world, and not all of these recruits are going to be cannon fodder in Iraq. I'm willing to bet that out of the number of people that are recruited that a fairly large percentage are not going over seas, they're here and they're recruiting in their communities. And this movement will grow in the Western World. Frankly I would think that the execution of a American journalist and the open threats that ISIS is making towards the west is a game changer. I think that the one benefit of ISIS is that you have a lot of extremists in one area. Personally from a tactics standpoint. Air Strikes against a group like this achieves very little, nor do drone strikes or missile strikes off of ships. You literally have to put special forces on the ground and start killing these people. you have to go after their leadership, and go after their replacements, and you have to be as ruthless and brutal as them. No secret trials, no jail terms no chance of release. you capture them, you put them up against the wall or put or a rope around their necks and send them off to explain their misdeeds to allah. You contain them in Iraq and you work to wipe them out publicly, loudly and painfully. At the same time you go after Quatar and Saudi Arabia and their support structure economically. you go after their pipelines of money and support. For want of better terms you wipe out barbarians, burn their villages and salt the earth to make sure that they don't come back, you don't wait for them to spread.