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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Advanced stats right now in hockey are so basic that we call them advanced stats because they are simply a step above TOI, blocked shots, etc. They are more "advanced" than the basics, but they really aren't difficult to grasp.
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But part of what I was getting at is that this may be precisely the problem with advanced statistics. As near as I can tell, they theoretically depend upon methodological principles and models derived from the academic and scientific disciplines of statistics, but have been developed by amateurs, who may not necessarily understand enough about statistical analysis to make the best use of them. Their present usefulness is much debated, and the current results have been mixed. I would counter that this is possibly an outcome of the fact that the systems themselves are flawed in such ways that they were not correctly developed in the first place. In any event, I think it would be worthwhile to discover how a trained statistician would approach the same matter.
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
...You don't need a PhD to understand it or find value in these numbers. And I'd argue that if you do need a PhD to understand them, they have no value in hockey related decisions.
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What kind of an argument is that?
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I'd far rather have somebody like Kent Wilson hired by the Flames than some mathematician who thinks he knows hockey.
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For me this would depend entirely upon the job for which such a person was hired. If that job is restricted to exotic data collection and processing, then I would prefer to leave that to a mathematician.