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Old 08-16-2014, 02:54 PM   #514
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Don't take it personally, I don't mean to direct it at just you, as it isn't just you. A logo should be timeless and the Monahan outline is already dated. I don't think the shoulder patch logos, being round or square, play well either. They already look dated. There is some nice work with the skyline, but they date quickly as new building elements are added. The speech bubble concepts are very cool and reflective of the intent of the site, and should not age quickly, depending on the font treatment. The new logo should carry CP forward for the next decade. I'm hoping the color scheme of the site is updated with a new logo as well. CP needs to be easily identifiable by their logo and profile. Even though I'm not a fan of the site, HFBoards has a good logo and profile. CP should up that substantially. Some of the designs do just that.
You don't like my design. I get it. And I don't take criticism personally. I'm just pointing out your response to someone putting time and effort into designing a free logo for a community is plain rude. I do a lot of pro-bono work locally, and there's always that one guy who thinks he's in a board room meeting and paying a designer thousands to justify his brutal criticisms. If people are posting ideas to a forum for a logo design for their new community,
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Just say no to the Sean Monahan outline. Terribad design.
is pretty freakin' rude. I'm just glad it was me you were directing it to, as I'd feel horrible watching someone like you spit in someone else's face. I've been a designer for a while and am used to criticism, so I'm used to people like you.

But while we're here... let's go ahead and address the rest of your helpful tips.

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Worst goal celebration ever
How so? His face is weird in the image, sure... but you can't really see his face in the logo. Personally, I think the outline ended up looking pretty cool.

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and an even worse outline of a player doing said celebration.
Oh! Is THIS the 'don't take it personally' part? Gotcha. Ok chum, let's see you break out your well honed vector skillz and do better. I'll wait.

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In fact, player outlines are just terrible. Just awkward looking.
Interesting. So these:









are no good?

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Use the actual image, or don't use it at all.
I must have missed that Smashing article, but when did raster images become the preferred practice for logo design? Should I abandon all vector logo designs and go straight to using rasters of trees and bridges, or does that only apply to players?

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A logo should be timeless and the Monahan outline is already dated. I don't think the shoulder patch logos, being round or square, play well either. They already look dated. There is some nice work with the skyline, but they date quickly as new building elements are added.
None of what you just said here makes sense. A player who played his first year in the league hardly has a 'dated' image. The idea was to honour the current Flames squad. Considering that encompasses very few games of photos, I hardly think you can slam anyone for not choosing a 'timeless' photo.

When did anyone design a shoulder patch logo? I'm assuming you're associating roundel logos to shoulder patches, but did Starbucks begin life as a Seattle beer-league team?

I'm also pretty confident that we can make a slight logo adjustment before someone builds an entire building. If anything, it'd be cool to go back to the 2014 CP logo in 2030 and have nostalgia over how the Calgary skyline looked then.

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The speech bubble concepts are very cool and reflective of the intent of the site, and should not age quickly, depending on the font treatment. The new logo should carry CP forward for the next decade.
Note: I love the speech bubble logos posted here, so I'm not knocking on them one bit.

That aside, are you really in one breath going to tell me that a player silhouette and a city skyline are 'dated' but a speech bubble 'should not age quickly'?

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Even though I'm not a fan of the site, HFBoards has a good logo and profile. CP should up that substantially. Some of the designs do just that.
A bold font with a puck smashing through glass is the logo you're putting on a pedestal for us to design to? Let's try and set the bar a smidgen higher than 'acceptable'

You're totally wrong about everything, and your comment was stupid and rude. I think you're a complete moron... but don't take it personally.

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