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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Do you really believe this nonsense?
"Hey, I'm a single mother with two kids and a high school diploma, I'm going to work where, when, for who I want. And if that doesn't work for me, the "volunteerist society" that some guy made up will help me out".
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Single motherhood is a great example of government policies sending us in the wrong direction. And it is also one that we could have lengthy discussions and debates about.
I cannot think of a better "think of the children" issue.
And it dovetails with the two working parents phenomenon.
Where once you would have someone earning and someone nurturing, now it is likely you have both (or no one) earning and neither (or no one) nurturing.
Internet babies. Think of that concept for a second. And it is the path we are on.
Parental nurturing is key to healthy development of children.
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
Why not believe it? It has been working perfectly fine in Somalia for decades!!
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Ahh, the warcry of illogical statists. Somalia!!
I guess I should just yell back "North Korea!!" or.... "Oilers!!!"
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I love the dispatches from the Libertarian abstraction. Just so fundamentally untethered from the realities of nation-states and modern governments. It's even more hopelessly utopian and dangerous than Marxism.
Major practical issues are simply buffed out of what such a reality would lead to. It's like libertarians have never read a history book and remain willfully ignorant of 7000 years of human civilization.
It bellies belief that such an intellectually, historically, psychologically bankrupt ideology has such currency.
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LOL. Your indoctrination appears almost complete. I give you credit for being a linguistic florist. Congrats.
But your posts scream "intellectual vegetarian!"
No meat.
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Last page, but I think most people's biggest problem with Libertarianism is the "Screw you, got mine" mindset. Libertarianism isn't socially liberal, because Libertarianism doesn't believe in safety nets.
I think the tenet that best describes what you've written is Philosophical Communitarianism (screw you, we got ours), or possibly Classical Liberalism.
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I think you are confusing Ayn Rand's objectivism with libertarianism.
Rand hated libertarians.
Libertarians care. I care. The mindsets you talk about are ones painted upon us. In some cases, it is probably true, however that is not even remotely close to the norm.
One could argue that those who believe the state should look after people are the selfish ones. Instead of taking a personal stake in helping to resolve an individual's needs (and resolving the root cause), people wash their hands of issues by throwing money at problems. This in turn can result in a variety of moral hazards.
There is lots of great discussion about depression here on CP. I would posit that the alarming increase in cases partially fueled from moral hazards such as the family issue I discussed in my reply to Rouge. The seed of depression is often planted in early childhood. Moral hazard at work.