[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by jammies

That's an assertion, not an argument. Articles of libertarian faith do not trump reality - "choice" can be limited or entirely eliminated by factors outside the individual's control.

When you are an unskilled labourer, do you have the choice to grab a few million dollars of venture capital to open your own software development company? Does an engineer "choose" to get an engineering-related job, or is his choice circumscribed by his education? If your single mother needs you to drop out of school to help pay the bills for your six brothers and sisters, can you "choose" instead to go off for 7 years to get a law degree and become a lawyer instead?



In our current society, I can choose to pay taxes or not, too! Look - your libertarian utopia is achievable today! Just "choose" not to pay taxes, "choose" to ignore laws that circumscribe your economic freedom, and you're golden!

Or maybe your definition of "choice" is ridiculously simplistic. Choice implies the consequences of different actions have somewhat comparable outcomes that a rational person can evaluate and decide between.





Based on what evidence? Yet again, another axiom of libertarianism glitzed up to sound like an argument.

Back around 100-150 years ago, we had a capitalist/feudalist society that depended upon volunteerism to ameliorate social ills. It was almost universally unsuccessful. And yet, somehow, it'll be different now? Why is that?



Oh yes, if you like repression, regimentation, and patriarchy. And, for that matter, communal ownership of property. Does any of that really resonate with libertarian ideals?



The entire philosophy of libertarianism relies upon false premises, so one line is all that really needs addressing. It's a simplistic approach to a world of complexities, and appeals to those who fail to understand that the simpler the system, the easier it is to corrupt and control.

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