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Originally Posted by jammies
The naivety of this statement encapsulates everything mistaken about libertarianism: those who work for wages under capitalism do not do so because it is "voluntary", they do so because in such a system there is no other way to survive. Those with economic advantage can and will coerce those at an economic disadvantage, because coercion and hierarchy of power is inherent in any system that manages human beings.
The perfect libertarian state is about as likely as the perfect Marxist state, and for exactly the same reason - people game every system and find the ways to exploit others within it. The only way to truly ameliorate this truth is to have a system that evolves alongside and against its parasites, which a theocracy of money is far to simple to succeed at doing.
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those who work for wages under capitalism do not do so because it is "voluntary", they do so because in such a system there is no other way to survive.
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They voluntarily choose and agree to, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT, WHO and HOW they will work. It is all a matter of choice.
Your key word is "wages". In a free society you can choose to work for wages or not. It is YOUR choice.
As for that survivability issue, here is where the rubber meets the road.
People have "survived" for millennia. What the hell are you talking about "no other way"? For the truly needy, for example, a volunteerist society is far more likely to be able to not only identify the needs of an individual but address them. That is what a voluntary community does.
And other groups, i.e. like the Hutterites seem to do very well on their own.
I am not ignoring the rest of your post, I am just tired and must go to bed.
At least I have tried to address more of YOUR post than you did from one line of MINE.