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Originally Posted by lanny9
Although the reason for originally going into Iraq was flawed, the world is a better place without Hussain. Problem really is that the Iraqi people, or more so government didn't want the Americans there any longer. Had the Americans been able to keep 10,000 troops there they would have been able to stop ISIS dead in their tracks when they came back over the border from Syria. The pullout was too early and left a huge power vacuum in the country and under this government they have not been inclusive of minorities which allowed ISIS to get as strong as they have. This includes disbanding the armed forces and creating a mainly shia army with no proper training nor desire to do any heavy lifting. When the times got tough they ran like little school girls, they were there for a pay cheque, not to put their lives on the line.
Anyways, going forward what is the course of action? I don't think these pin prick bombings are going to stop ISIS' s lust for blood. More regular bombings and unfortunately maybe NATO or god forbid UN boots on the ground is what will be the game changer. And maybe a peace keeping force will have to stay for a decade after, until these groups can learn to live together and have an inclusive, operational government structure fully in place. We will also have to bomb their bases in Syria so as to not allow them to regroup.
All I know is there is a lot going on in the world right now, none of it good, and most areas are going to get worse over the next months and unfortunately with a group like ISIS we cannot turn our back as it is only a matter of time before they hit the west, especially if we allow them to hold land, further organize and recruit. This is why we need to hit them hard and take care of business or it will end up on our shores one way or another.
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I'm sorry but the world is not a better place without Hussain, assuming you think a unified and relatively modern Iraq is a better outcome than a decade or two of bloody civil war ending in two or three medieval theocracies.
Hussain was no better or worse than any other ruler in the region and at least he was secular, like Assad, who, Incidently we will miss if he falls.
Ghaddifi looks like a positive saint compared to what is replacing him.
And it will take more than ten thousand on the ground to hold this crapfest of death together, because you may go in as welcomed peacekeepers, but within a few months they will all want our troops dead as well. Remember the british went into N Ireland as welcomed protectors of the catholic minority, you can see film of the Catholics clapping as they set up road blocks in Derry, that never lasts though, a month or two later you are under siege and need 100,000 or more to hold the place, on top of that 'we' support Israel, which makes us the friend of their enemy, which is not good in an Arab country.