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Old 08-05-2014, 08:07 PM   #1688
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby View Post
Exhausting ad hominem aside, there is serious truth in his statement that you need to be considering if you're going to make a balanced argument.
I have already agreed that Israel is aggressive with their military policy. It seems to come and go with the times. I disagree with the settlements and agree outright with Flash when he said that as the dominant force in the region Israel should take the first step. I will not however try to simplify the situation by painting Hamas as the democratically elected government fighting for the good of the Palestinian people and Israel is the evil force trying to ruin the lives of the Palestinian people. The situation is a LOT more complex than that.


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Whether you or I think Israel is evil or the one destroying the lives of the Palestinian people is irrelevant on every level, because THEY believe it to be true. That is why they fight, that is why they elect and support those who want Israel destroyed.
And this is the problem people have. Hamas has been democratically elected, and therefore they speak for the Palestinian people. The Hamas charter outright calls for the eradication of Israel. Should we therefore believe that the people of Palestine want Israel destroyed? And if so, why should Israel do anything else than declare outright war on them?

Of course, the situation isn't as simple, and even among the ruling party in Gaza there is disagreement. So lets not try to paint everything in a black and white picture, which is exactly what Flash was doing.

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To them, Israel is indeed evil. It would be unwise to sit back and tell them how they should feel about it. Israel and it's supporters don't take kindly to be told to just "deal with" the rocket attacks, why would you think the situation is different on the other side?
I know this isn't addressed to me, but the reason people think Israel should deal with it is because there isn't as much 'destruction' in Israel from the rocket attacks. Therefore there is a notion that Israel can somehow manage to live with daily sirens and rocket attacks even if most are harmless. The rise of the Iron Dome system also plays a part in such beliefs.
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