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Old 08-01-2014, 06:36 PM   #1507
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby View Post
Spin?
That's exactly what they said...


http://www.jta.org/2014/07/13/news-o...aeli-warningss

So no, that isn't spin, that's a quote, which is what I directly referenced when I summarised Hamas' message to civilians.
Public statement meant to convince their public to do as they are told, have they issue any retraction of this since the war has become far more prolonged? If they truly had their public's welfare in mind they would have issued a retraction... this leads me to believe again they are just spinning.

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As for human shields, again, the only reason IDF doesn't currently use them is because the courts disallowed it. So to claim it's some moral travesty when Hamas uses them is devoid of any credibility, and I quote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4333982.stm

Have they since moved on from it? Absolutely, as the military was forced to, but that doesn't make their use and support of it any less relevant. You cannot logically condemn Hamas' use of human shields while painting Israel as some guiltless entity. Hamas doesn't hasn't used suicide bombers for about the same amount of time, but that seems to be fair game to bring up. Why hide anything on either side?
I can logically condemn Hama's use of human shield because of the governing rules around it's existence. Israel's constitution enshrines basic rules and checks to self correct, as ineffective as it may seem sometimes, problems such as the use of human shields by it's military institutions. Does Hamas have the same checks, courts or basic rules written in their constitution? Quite the opposite actually. Again, I did not paint Israel as any guiltless entity, far from it, but you have to admit that at least they still at least hope for peace and at least try to correct the wrongs of their military whereas Hamas....

As for suicide bombers, that was more a result of the wall going up and check points making them suicide bombings an ineffective tool rather than Hamas purposely stopping their use. While you bring that up, a suicide bomber was just used in the cease fire breaking tunnel attack that led to the capture of the IDF soldier.
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