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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
Firstly, it's incorrect to claim Hamas started the current war. It was escalation between the two, and to lay blame on one party is indicative of bias. Neither are innocent in the beginning of this war.
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While neither is completely innocent I agree, I lay blame on whoever pulls the trigger first in any escalation after a period of peace. In this case, three Israeli teens were kidnapped by Palestinians. While this is not likely a Hamas proper-led initiative, it's highly liekly that ultimate responsibility lies with a faction of said group.
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
Secondly, sure, you can blame the British. You can, in fact, start at multiple different points in history in order to suit whatever narrative you'd like. My point, was that neither action is being done with the sole goals of "defence" or "killing Jews". The intent of both of these governments is complex and layered, and their reasons for action are the same.
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You give far too much credit to Hamas right now. Hamas is not a bureaucratic government in the sense of the United States or Israel but right now a para-military (cell based similar to the structure used by many terrorist groups), semi-government organization that is haphazardly cobbled together as the de-facto government of the region. Unfortunately due to this structure all it takes is a few crazies or splinter groups acting as "Hamas" to really kill the peace for everyone involved. It's likely what happened with the three teens that were killed and likely the cause of the situation now. Until there is some way Palestinians can be rid of the organization of Hamas and it's ideals, I'm not sure how much peace can be had.
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
Lastly, while true that a two state solution may have been in the cards half of a decade ago, my comments were directed at present day, as most of this discussion is. 5 years ago is irrelevant when the mood has changed:
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Well you see why the mood changed no? A two state solution was offered, it was rejected with rocket file. You offer an unconditional ceasefire, only to have it violated 90 minutes later with a kidnapping of a high profile Israeli officer. Can you blame Israeli for it's shift in mindset? Baby steps... though apparently even that is not possible.