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Old 07-30-2014, 03:05 PM   #1300
Chill Cosby
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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal View Post
It's hate speech because like it or not, Israel is a Jewish state, and nazism and judiasm is a no go for speech. There are plenty of examples that protestors could make (Croatia, South Africa etc) to try and express what they believe the Israeli government is doing to Palestinian citizens that makes the same point without bringing up Nazism.

Like it or not it really is a zero tolerance policy with the Jewish people when it comes to Nazism. It is still fresh in so many minds, how close the Jewish people came to be destroyed. My grandfathers village in Poland for example had 2 survivors, him and his brother. Every single other resident died at the hands of the Nazis.

There is plenty of examples to use to express your disdain for Israels policies, you don't need to use nazism to make that point. To do so touches a nerve way to close to the heart of Jewish people still. Whether this is hate speech in your mind doesn't really matter, it's hate speech in the minds of the people you are putting down. Isn't that what really matters when talking about hate speech anyways, the group it effects?

That doesn't seem like the definition of hate speech though:

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hate speech
noun
1. speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.
I get what you're saying in that it's offensive and touches on a sensitive issue, but this is a matter of politics, is it not?

How is accusing the Israeli government of nazism an attack on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation? Hate speech is most certainly occurring in this dispute, but how does criticism of political policy in the harshest way possible constitute hate speech?

Are you saying it's alright to accuse them of many things the nazi's also were guilty of, but not alright to reference nazi's directly because of the sensitive history?

Hate speech, like racism, is an extremely loaded phrase, but it has a pretty understandable definition. It seems like this guy was just being an insensitive dick, and maybe I'm just dumb, but I'm not seeing how it's hate speech in any definable way. Being offended by it doesn't make it hate speech.

If you refer to any other government as a nazi regime, are you just being ridiculous? Or are you actively spreading hate speech?
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