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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Talk to a hundred Catholics and I doubt youll find many who believe its nothing more than symbolic. You seem to be speaking for Catholics as to what they believe.
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Well he's not talking for them if it's the church's actual stance. He's merely pointing out the facts. The number of Catholics who actually believe the stance or not is secondary. Old-Fart comment was correct based on the church's stance and MarchHare (along with me) was simply pointing out that yes, the ritual is considered real that way, when another poster said they believed it was only symbolic.
I would agree with you that the majority probably do believe it is symbolic. I was part of that culture for many years. But none of us are speaking for anyone or are incorrect in our statements if we are pointing out the fact that the church does still believe it to actually be a real ritual that really turns the bread and wine into the body and blood.
And that's the problem with a lot of religion in general. People pick and choose what they believe in. And with that, generally comes, why it's ok for 'me' to sin, but not for 'you' to sin.
IE, I'll be unfaithful in my marriage, but I'll make sure no homosexuals can get married in my state.