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Old 07-28-2014, 11:46 PM   #1167
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza View Post
Both quotes are not based on facts, but based on deliberate condemnation. What were they saying for the past year?

I don't agree that Hamas has allowed people to leave, I have seen as many reports suggesting people are pushed to stay. Plus, the act of launching attacks in civilian areas is simply using human shields. This is not a debate.

This is all false. There has rarely been a lull in rocket attacks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2014

See the above link, in case you are curious about 2013, here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2013

Not sure what the argument is, Hamas had been launching rockets, yet again, nearly daily. How long should Israel take it for? And then the murder of three teens. I am unsure why people are posting that it matters here what set off Israel, it doesn't matter...Hamas has been attacking for months and Israel has defended itself. Not only that, Israel discovered some shockingly deep tunnels that Hamas was planning attacks from, attacks with certainly no chance of survival, in other words suicide for the attackers.

Exactly correct (outside of the conspiracy stuff), unsure what Israel should do in this circumstance. Perhaps get rid of Hamas? Just exactly why would anyone want them in charge? The elected government in Gaza wants to destroy Israel, I can see Israel absolutely limiting supplies. Embargoes are fairly standard when dealing with a hostile nation. Get rid of Hamas and I don't doubt for a second massive relief for the people. Recognition of Israel? Possibly even greater access to goods. I know it is harsh, but I am really not sure why the resistance to something that appears very simple.

Correct, and I agree completely. Full autonomy for Palestinians is good, but by all means, Israel should be in charge of security, to protect both Israelis and Palestinians. Palestinian police is fine, but military, only Israel. I think we are way past the point of providing Palestinians with Jets. Perhaps in the future, but for now zero chance. There has simply been too much violence.
This entire response is devoid of facts and full of empty rhetoric. (Stark contrast, given the number of facts supplied in the maligned article.) The one fact/link supplied supports the argument of the article.
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