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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
These Hamas 'truthers' in this thread aren't even making plausible arguments at this point.
According to the Hamas Truthers For example, "the rockets that Hamas has been firing for months didn't cause Israel to attack, it was the murder of three teens. Therefor, Israel is terrible! The rockets that are currently being fired at Israel of which Israel is returning fire are also not to blame, it was the murders! See what I mean?"
"Hamas needs the tunnels, I don't blame them, since they need supplies, and they need rockets too, in case Hamas decides to murder more Israeli civilians!"
"Israel didn't give up Gaza as a peaceful gesture, it is because they are terrible bloodthirsty people!"
These repeated arguments are beyond stupid, I cannot fathom how any reasonable person could think they make sense. It is almost no wonder Hamas is firing rockets...
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Why must you always insult others? It really hurts you.
As far as I'm aware, you're misrepresenting the arguments entirely. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose, or if you haven't bothered to try, but I can try to clear it up for you:
"Israel was withstanding the more relaxed rocket fire (if you can call rocket fire 'relaxed') with relative ease. Once the Israeli teens were murdered, Israel reacted too strongly without requisite evidence or care of humanitarian law. Hamas then increased their rocket fire to an intolerable and dangerous rate, causing Israel to invade."
"Hamas needed the original tunnels to Egypt in order to obtain supplies for their people. In this way, the tunnels served a needed purpose as humanitarian aid wasn't enough. Unfortunately, Hamas also used the tunnels to bring in weapons and created separate tunnels to attack Israel. For this reason, Israel needs to eliminate them."
"Israel didn't give up Gaza as a peaceful gesture, they never gave up Gaza. Why they did it (or didn't) is likely due to self-protection, both militarily and politically."
This, of course, can't speak for everyone. I can't begin to assume I know what every one of the people you can "truthers" stand for, but as far as I have seen the above are more representative of the views of some of those without a pro-Israel bias, including myself. Regardless, it is extremely unhelpful to lump multiple different people under the same label and to purposely misrepresent them. What do you hope to gain?